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Post #326,883 by boxley 5/26/10 1:02:26 PM Reply	irlrpd You're confusing tone and content. There is no difference between "this paper shows X is wrong" and "you fucking moron, this paper shows X is wrong, and if you weren't such a demented fuckwit, you'd know that already". X is still wrong either way.
Post #327,139 by mhuber 6/1/10 5:18:38 AM Reply	Taubes and Atkins The same basic content. Well, theory anyway. Taubes goes into the biology and epidemiology, Atkins tries to turn it into something practical. But Atkins actually wrote "Modesty may not be my strong suit, but I'd be a traitor to mankind if I said anything else." Really. It's in his book. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)
Post #327,151 by drook 6/1/10 10:11:37 AM Reply	Let's go Godwin If you could go back in time, would it be ethical to kill the scientist who proposed that dietary fat caused heart disease? (ref: standard "Would you kill Hitler?" trope) -- Drew
Post #327,161 by folkert 6/1/10 10:59:11 AM Reply	Sure... why not. Its not like anything else would have really stopped the Germans from doing it a second time in 25 years. I'd nail Adolf him in a heartbeat. As far as the Scientist that lead us to this assumption... if I recall it wasn't just one person, but a group.
Post #327,178 by drook 6/1/10 1:43:41 PM Reply	What's that line that ends with "... let God sort 'em out"? -- Drew
Post #327,183 by mhuber 6/1/10 2:57:18 PM Reply	Kind of innocent The scientists involved pretty much said "we don't have any solid research yet, come back later" and were asked "where does it look like the preliminary stuff points?" and then "people are dying, we need an answer NOW!" The dietary fat hypothesis isn't wrong science, it is preliminary stuff that never panned out. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)
Post #327,188 by drook 6/1/10 3:43:22 PM Reply	I wasn't necessarily talking about the scientists After all, Hitler pointed to scientific sources for eugenics. It was the policy decisions that were a problem. The false sense of urgency -- "people are dying" -- is done on purpose to force through changes that are more about power and control than anything else. Ref: "for the children" and COPA -- Drew
Post #327,207 by mhuber 6/1/10 7:57:32 PM Reply	Don't know if I'd even say false Dealing with hundreds of millions of people, a small chance of a small improvement, waiting another year for better data kills a whole bunch of people. Of course, so does using incomplete data. Hence the old saying Don't just do something, Stand There! Maybe there is a bad guy in this story. But it also could be a tragic collision of good intentions. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)
Post #327,211 by drook 6/1/10 8:33:35 PM Reply	Lord, protect me from the well-intentioned -- Drew
Post #327,520 by Ashton 6/7/10 6:39:02 PM Reply	Re: Let's go Godwin Never mind killing Adolf: kill those idiots that wouldn't let Herr Shiklgrüber into the art institute, for all those petty reasons (no talent, etc.) Problem solved without all the [killing-your-grandfather] X [50 million was it?] -- only a handful of evaporated offspring to track through the 11-dimensional save-phace-space.
Post #327,595 by mhuber 6/9/10 1:28:41 AM Reply	You seen the guy's paintings? We dodged an aesthetic bullet sending him over to politics, let me tell you. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)

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