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by pwhysall
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5/11/10 5:43:25 PM
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New Nah.
It'll never, ever get through the house; electoral reform is a load of handwaving to make the coalition get past the triple lock of the LD constitution.

AV would mean the final destruction of Labour in Scotland (in favour of the SNP) and there are plenty of Tories who will rebel.

What he got was Deputy PM and four other Cabinet positions.
Post #326,028
by jay
5/11/10 10:41:26 PM
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New It wouldn't surprise me
I stuck a very big conditional on the original statement because there are all kinds of ways that the Tories can back out or sabotage it later. They could just do it in a way that insures it fails or point to some economic/political/military crisis that makes it impractical. Either way, if that happens the government probably blows up, because even if Clegg wants to hold it together, I don't think he can keep the party in line.

The only way I can see the Conservatives supporting it is if they are calculating that the damage will be so much worse for Labour then the Tories that the Tories will come out ahead. I really don't see that happening. What could happen though is that the Conservatives weakly follow through with their agreement, putting it to a national referendum without any real Conservative support at all. In this case they are hoping the Lib Dems can't sell the referendum nationally on their own and lose the vote.

From Static
That sounds like`Instant Run-Off.

As far as I can tell, it is just a British term for the same thing.

Jay
     It's Election Day in the UK - (pwhysall) - (32) - May 6, 2010, 12:10:50 PM EDT
         I can't see a Con-Lib coalition - (warmachine) - (3) - May 6, 2010, 09:35:13 PM EDT
             I can. - (pwhysall) - May 7, 2010, 05:52:19 AM EDT
             could you explain proportional representation? - (boxley) - (1) - May 7, 2010, 09:15:12 AM EDT
                 No, we're FPTP -NT - (pwhysall) - May 7, 2010, 11:51:33 AM EDT
         Oh dear. - (static) - May 7, 2010, 12:09:55 AM EDT
         Looks like Labour did better than the polls predicted. - (Another Scott) - May 7, 2010, 06:54:21 AM EDT
         Lib Dems get the offer - (malraux) - (25) - May 7, 2010, 10:37:47 AM EDT
             And the negotiating games begin - (jay) - (24) - May 9, 2010, 01:03:55 PM EDT
                 Didn't Clegg tie his own hands? - (Another Scott) - (22) - May 9, 2010, 01:25:56 PM EDT
                     Easy. - (pwhysall) - (21) - May 9, 2010, 01:50:44 PM EDT
                         More on the Lib/Lab coalition - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 9, 2010, 01:59:01 PM EDT
                             "a well-loathed figure" - (rcareaga) - (1) - May 10, 2010, 10:28:39 AM EDT
                                 I could not possibly comment on that.. -NT - (Ashton) - May 10, 2010, 01:47:13 PM EDT
                         Except his party would block a Con-Lib coalition - (warmachine) - (17) - May 9, 2010, 03:52:53 PM EDT
                             I think you're underestimating the LIB thirst for power. - (pwhysall) - (16) - May 9, 2010, 04:31:56 PM EDT
                                 He will probably try - (jay) - May 9, 2010, 06:11:44 PM EDT
                                 Citation needed - (warmachine) - (14) - May 9, 2010, 08:58:41 PM EDT
                                     Re: Citation needed - (pwhysall) - (13) - May 10, 2010, 12:44:37 AM EDT
                                         No explicit rejection of coalition with minority parties - (warmachine) - (12) - May 10, 2010, 07:29:57 PM EDT
                                             Well, it's anyone's guess now. - (pwhysall) - (11) - May 11, 2010, 01:23:43 AM EDT
                                                 Well Britain *does* have the Monster Raving Loony Party... -NT - (static) - May 11, 2010, 02:19:52 AM EDT
                                                 britain has discovered the israeli method of government :-) -NT - (boxley) - May 11, 2010, 08:39:48 AM EDT
                                                 Aaaaand the LIB/CON love-in is back on. - (pwhysall) - (8) - May 11, 2010, 11:44:19 AM EDT
                                                     It's over. Brown's out. - (Another Scott) - (7) - May 11, 2010, 03:14:09 PM EDT
                                                         It's probably too early to say "I told you so", but... - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 11, 2010, 03:30:00 PM EDT
                                                             :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - May 11, 2010, 03:44:23 PM EDT
                                                         It looks like he got the big concession - (jay) - (4) - May 11, 2010, 05:05:50 PM EDT
                                                             Nah. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 11, 2010, 05:43:25 PM EDT
                                                                 It wouldn't surprise me - (jay) - May 11, 2010, 10:41:26 PM EDT
                                                             I'd have never believed that would ever happen - (warmachine) - May 11, 2010, 07:03:56 PM EDT
                                                             That sounds like`Instant Run-Off. - (static) - May 11, 2010, 08:53:15 PM EDT
                 Gordon Brown takes the necissary step - (jay) - May 10, 2010, 02:11:58 PM EDT

How can he be so skinny and live SO phat?!?
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