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Post #325,999 by beepster 5/11/10 2:30:38 PM Reply	Really God Bless America is offensive? Ok. Sure. Whatever you say. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #326,007 by Ashton 5/11/10 4:25:17 PM Reply	'The War Prayer' / Mark Twain So then.. the tykes are to suppose that GOD shall naturally decimate the category, "Not-US" -- and that this is a given because.. We Be So Good / They Be So Bad ... forever etc. etc. (and various forms of rationalizations of what IS: a philosophy / theosophy matter with No Decent Solution \| thus quite unlike anything which 'Art' might connote, imply, Accept. I. See. the basis of your predictable auto-sarcasm. Logic failed as did Reason. But not dogma. Carrion, it's ripe Wanna do the "purple majesties" and the "gleaming alabaster cities undimmed by human tears" ... while inculcating your anthems into nascent tyke minds? I could almost see voting for Palin in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC
Post #326,008 by beepster 5/11/10 4:33:23 PM Reply	I see... ...so a 12 year old draws a flag with "in God we Trust" and in our open and free society (free from religious persecution...I seem to remember that was one of the main reasons for folks to cross the pond" is now told that using the G word is offensive. Obviously, you agree..and so the grand social experiment must have failed...because she was persecuted SPECIFICALLY for her religious belief. Yes, thats a "good thing". Of course, had she drawn that flag and those words along with a picture of her two adopted daddies...that would probably be "enlightened". Well, at least she got the colors right. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #326,015 by Andrew Grygus 5/11/10 5:55:03 PM Reply	Umm . . . not exactly - in fact, not at all. (free from religious persecution...I seem to remember that was one of the main reasons for folks to cross the pond The reason for crossing was to enable them to be the persecuters - something they did very well indeed once established here. That was a major reason why the Constitution is so firm about matters of religious freedom.
Post #326,026 by beepster 5/11/10 10:12:35 PM Reply	Suppose its half empty/half full were being persecuted, got here and practiced turnabout...so catholics go here, protestants go there...and we straightened out somewhat about the time of the revolution. Regardless... You can't be punished or chastised based on religion. Seems that the base response now is that the only acceptable religion is no religion, not the freedom to believe anything you choose. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #326,033 by Ashton 5/12/10 3:04:03 AM Reply	Believe ... whatever fits your fancy Start proselytizing with an aim to force others to your fav koans: Trouble Arises. (We Know what's Best for the zygote in your womb, cha cha cha.) (We just-Know that God Hates Fags, cha cha cha.) ( ____ ) . . . (and like that.) Pretty simple, really: ~Golden Rule will do -- then eschew browbeating others to share your One True God? Is that so HARD to grok to fullness? Not all that simple, either: what you might like "done to yourself" might be anathema to someone oriented Differently -- that should go without Saying, of course; surprisingly, it oft needs to be Said to the do-gooder/antagonist. I could almost see voting for Palin in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC
Post #326,040 by beepster 5/12/10 7:04:18 AM Reply	Which side in this example was doing the browbeating? I think you have the situation perfectly reversed in your head. But since the authority in this case is telling the girl that God is offensive...well thats the right kind of freedom for you. (God or flag, nothing in story to determine which is worse to her) I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #326,046 by boxley 5/12/10 8:29:47 AM Reply	you are confused in CA learning islam in school is not only acceptable but required, the kid was being admonished for getting an american flag anywhere near it If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #326,047 by beepster 5/12/10 8:37:18 AM Reply	that explains it then... she should have written Allah Akbar on the flag so as to not be offensive :) I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #326,087 by lincoln 5/12/10 3:52:40 PM Reply	Re: Really I never said it; I'm assuming that those words are what the teacher focused on. Do you believe that the teacher thought that the American flag was offensive, or do you believe that the teacher thought that the words "God Bless America" were offensive? "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #326,092 by beepster 5/12/10 4:21:02 PM Reply	doesn't really matter to me either one is a mistake on the teachers part. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.

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