Its not being here that does it..

Post #325,316 by beepster 4/27/10 9:47:14 AM Reply	Its not being here that does it.. ...its how you got in. All of those processes are well defined. And your alternative means that all people would have to register for work...lets see anyone pass something like that (national/state/county id card). Wouldn't float. And why should AZ and other border states have to fund all of the expense to police people that shouldn't be here in the first place? Thats the basis of what they are saying. Fed inaction has created an unsustainable situation in their state, which they are now acting to correct. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #325,318 by boxley 4/27/10 10:32:21 AM Reply	if you are seen wandering around phoenix without documents you cannot prove in a court of law how they got in. Nothing criminal in overstaying a day visit. here is a link on how similar laws were enacted in philly in 1956 to round up the undesirables. http://www.law.berke...iles/Skolnick.pdf We learn that the Philadelphia police regularly rounded up ÂundesirablesÂ in periodic drives. Caleb describes a drive against those so-called undesirables who were occupying PhiladelphiaÂs newly completed Independence Hall. The drive wasÂnot surprisingly-- popular with the general public, and surely with the editorial staff of The Philadelphia Inquirer, which titled an editorial, ÂGet Bums off the Street and Into Prison Cells.Â sounds familiar to sheriff Joe doesnt it? If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #325,319 by boxley 4/27/10 10:44:46 AM Reply	USSC has already addressed this . In a later case, a plurality of the Court interpreted Robinson to mean that the punishment of "mere status" is unconstitutional: "[C]riminal penalties may be inflicted only if the accused has committed some act . . . which society has an interest in preventing" (Powell v. Texas, 392 U.S. 514, 533 (1968)). Cant criminalize being hispanic If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #325,476 by boxley 4/30/10 11:57:20 AM Reply	like you said http://thehill.com/h...-national-id-card If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #325,550 by beepster 5/2/10 1:13:23 PM Reply	Brilliant do nothing at the border for years and years, then propose the ID card you've been trying so hard to get so you can fix the problem you created. We've softened on the idea...heck, most western nations have an id card system...so we're just being more like them, right? I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.

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