Obama is setting the right pace here

Post #324,576 by jay 4/13/10 9:21:01 AM Reply	Obama is setting the right pace here When did revenue and spending go into a hard split? Right before Obama took office into the worst economy our country has faced since the great depression. Obama is setting the right pace on this. The economy is not good enough yet for large scale deficit reduction, but he is planning ahead. Working to setup plans to get the deficit under control when the economy is strong enough to support it. On the other hand, I don't much like his commission since it seems setup to produce a predetermined result. Yet the only solutions capable of raising enough money are politically dangerous for the president and Congress: tax increases and major reductions in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Those are not the only solutions. Those are just the two solutions the big power brokers in Washington are looking at. Defense spending cuts, business subsidy cuts and tax loophole removal are not getting any time at the table. And that is what is ticking me off about this whole game, it looks like it's rigged from the start. Jay
Post #324,577 by beepster 4/13/10 9:50:53 AM Reply	Interesting rationalization his plans show no closing of the gap, even in the future when the economy will be stronger. Not sure where you see the plans...I'd be interested. Healthcare? Even if it goes exactly on budget, it nets 100b savings. Not even 10% of where they need to be. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #324,584 by jay 4/13/10 11:33:21 AM Reply	Did you read the article? Not sure where you see the plans You post an article about Obama's commission to put together a plan for deficit reduction and you don't see him making plans? As for where I see it coming from, tax increases, military cuts and social cuts are really the only three things big enough to have enough impact. For it to work, it will probably have to be come combination of all three. A favor military cuts over the other two. Even if we cut our military budget to 50% of what it is now, we would still have the largest military in the world. Jay
Post #324,586 by beepster 4/13/10 1:25:39 PM Reply	Sure. So appointing a commission is his plan. Ok. So their vision will become his vision? I "hope" they have good vision. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #324,598 by jay 4/13/10 3:37:54 PM Reply	More likely the reverse Considering the way the commission was setup and the way it's acting, it's more likely they are going to come to the preordained plan that Obama gave them when he set it up. Jay
Post #324,611 by beepster 4/13/10 7:24:55 PM Reply	What plan was that? Was it a raise taxes plan? Cause he's been insisting that won't happen for "the vast majority"...the bottom 97, as it were. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #324,578 by boxley 4/13/10 10:20:21 AM Reply	how old are you again? "it looks like it's rigged from the start. " thats a no shit sherlock moment for you :-) If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #324,579 by beepster 4/13/10 10:29:52 AM Reply	"Hope" springs eternal I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #324,618 by rcareaga 4/13/10 8:48:16 PM Reply	Gosh: if only the peepul ...had had the wisdom to elect McCain/Palin. We'd be so much better off now, wouldn't we, beep? 'Cause, you know, it's not like 2001-2009 had anything to do with the shitty choices on our plate.
Post #324,634 by beepster 4/14/10 4:05:06 AM Reply	Give me a break yep, it was a crappy choice, but you wouldn't have known that during the election cycle..given the "tingly feeling" many were getting. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #324,637 by rcareaga 4/14/10 9:30:17 AM Reply	I was referring to the present policy options ...not to the tickets offered up by the two parties in 08 (regarding the results of which I continue to be largely satisfied with my vote "for" and utterly vindicated in my vote "against"). As to the "tingly feeling," perhaps you're referring to Rich Lowry's infamous "starbursts?" http://corner.nation...wZTExMjA3MWNiZTk= cordially,
Post #324,652 by lincoln 4/14/10 3:53:17 PM Reply	Maybe he was thinking about Chris Matthews Matthews: Obama Speech Caused 'Thrill Going Up My Leg' http://newsbusters.o...rill-going-my-leg "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #324,657 by rcareaga 4/14/10 4:39:14 PM Reply	Chris Matthews gets these man-crushes For example (on Bush 43): We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president. Much more here: http://mediamatters....arch/200604270005 As I recall, Mitt Romney also made our Chris all wet. cordially,

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