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New Re: Cringely: A tale of two H1-Bs.
All engineers in all fields needed to be taught (but most were not) that the half-life of their education was – maybe – 10 years, often five.

A lot of the problem is the flip side of that. Managers need to realize that experience is actually worth a lot and having the right keywords on your resume is not worth as much as people think.

A good computer programmer can pickup a new language in a month by reading a book and experimenting. There will be a learning curve while they pickup the subtle points of the language, but an inexperienced programmer right out of school is going to take even longer to really get up to speed.

Companies would rather spend months on an open ended quest to find the perfect candidate then train one themselves. The primary reasons for this is that Human Resources judge people by keywords because it's a lot easier then trying to measure real skill, training is a budget cost while lost opportunity isn't and managers tend to feel they can beat any problem by throwing more bodies at it.

And that is all before actually getting into the issues of companies abusing H1-Bs to drive down salary.

Jay
New Re: Cringely: A tale of two H1-Bs.

Managers need to realize that experience is actually worth a lot and having the right keywords on your resume is not worth as much as people think.



Ain't gonna happen in today's business environment. I've already been told by a former coworker turned recruiter that his firm shitcans any resume they receive from anybody over the age of 35. This week I had a recruiter contact me for a 1 year contract, no benefits, wanting 3 - 5 years experience, and they were willing to pay $50K - completely not giving a damn that a recent study of college graduates with NO experience and an IT degree are averaging salaries of $60K.


A good computer programmer can pickup a new language in a month by reading a book and experimenting.



I'm doing that now, and every recruiter I say that to reply that it's irrelevant because client companies want to see you having experience in specific languages at your past employers.




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
     Cringely: A tale of two H1-Bs. - (Another Scott) - (7)
         dunno, my take on it - (boxley) - (4)
             Several problems, but one big one - (drook) - (2)
                 not really - (boxley) - (1)
                     And those are not system architects - (crazy)
             We tried outsourcing programming - (pwhysall)
         Re: Cringely: A tale of two H1-Bs. - (jay) - (1)
             Re: Cringely: A tale of two H1-Bs. - (lincoln)

No, THIS is the funniest LRPDism...
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