dunno, my take on it

Post #323,911 by boxley 4/1/10 10:31:02 PM Reply	dunno, my take on it repetitive sysadmin jobs where you dont have to have a finger pushing in a pci card is well served by offshoring. qa and other testing cycles, well served by same. grunt programming where you issue cause and effect results in a "strict" well served by offshore where it fails is systemic glue integration of different products into a homogeneous system and firemen coders problem is the more of the same crowd cannot differentiate between the systems and either tend to push one way or the other to the detriment of both. Outsourcing 3rd world has a place but senior system engineers should direct such tasks not beancounters or PM's If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #323,917 by drook 4/2/10 1:06:12 AM Reply	Several problems, but one big one Outsourcing 3rd world has a place but senior system engineers should direct such tasks not beancounters or PM's But we've outsourced all the entry-level grunt work. Where are the senior system engineers supposed to come from? -- Drew
Post #323,923 by boxley 4/2/10 8:32:05 AM Reply	not really senior sysadmins come from the noc, data center and interns If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #323,934 by crazy 4/2/10 2:37:28 PM Reply	And those are not system architects Spend a few years on the application side, the profit side, fighting with the admins who see perfection as a reasonable goal, as well as the admin side, and you start to get a balance.
Post #323,921 by pwhysall 4/2/10 4:26:08 AM Reply	We tried outsourcing programming Didn't work. Complete disaster, in fact. I reckon you could make it work if the work being outsourced: (a) requires no domain knowledge (b) can be completely defined in a formal specification (c) requires no specialist knowledge or skills (d) doesn't have strict time constraints ...and, to be fair, that might constitute quite a lot of programming work for some companies. All four criteria were not met by what we tried to outsource, and the experiment fell flat on its arse.

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