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New so how much is your cadillac health plan gonna cost you?
or do you get to retire before the draconian raxes kick in? Around here they have already doubled the deductibles which were high to begin with in anticipation of the legislation with more changes to come
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
New Trade it in for a Hyundai
Cadillacs are for show-offs.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New My cadillac health plan (via COBRA)
currently is $1,032 a month - and that's WITH the 60% federal discount that's set to expire next month. It sure sucks to be married to someone who has a pre-existing condition.

Now the insurance company can't deny her insurance, but the sure as hell can price it beyond our affordability.




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
New Re: so how much is your cadillac health plan gonna cost you?
My Cadillac plan does not appear to have a place on the showroom floor under the legislation, and I do hope to have retired by January 2018 (although, alas, probably not until around that time).

cordially,

     to box and beep, in advance of the healthcare vote - (rcareaga) - (39)
         could you please? I need the room - (boxley)
         But it'll be enforced by the IRS:"Health care by Turbo Tax." - (Another Scott) - (37)
             You know...thats the statement that bugs me the most. - (beepster) - (36)
                 Yeah, screw this "base camp" shit - (rcareaga) - (5)
                     Right - (beepster)
                     so how much is your cadillac health plan gonna cost you? - (boxley) - (3)
                         Trade it in for a Hyundai - (beepster)
                         My cadillac health plan (via COBRA) - (lincoln)
                         Re: so how much is your cadillac health plan gonna cost you? - (rcareaga)
                 That one? - (Another Scott) - (29)
                     Considering who was saying it today - (beepster) - (1)
                         "In so many words..." I didn't hear that *at all*. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Pure gold from Gingrich - (rcareaga) - (26)
                         Republicans vowing to repeal it - (lincoln) - (20)
                             not a repealable issue at this point -NT - (boxley) - (19)
                                 Re: not a repealable issue at this point - (lincoln) - (18)
                                     Regaining the majority - (rcareaga) - (1)
                                         no only that but the public wont buy a repeal - (boxley)
                                     It's a talking point to stay in the news. - (Another Scott) - (15)
                                         dont look at dem polls - (boxley) - (14)
                                             I think the mandate will survive just fine. - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                                 You strive in vain, Another Scott... - (rcareaga) - (1)
                                                     Interesting - (beepster)
                                                 daily kos polls isnt tht like the cia polls in brezhnev era? - (boxley) - (10)
                                                     Not the same thing. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                         Difference - (beepster) - (1)
                                                             AFAIK, states can't opt out of Medicare. Yeah, we'll see. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                         have a link - (boxley) - (3)
                                                             State employee ==/== All citizens of the state. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                 mandate==all no exceptions HTH -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                     ... -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                     you and beep - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                         you must be on acid - (beepster)
                                                         gay porn? gross -NT - (boxley)
                         A dire threat from John McCain - (rcareaga) - (4)
                             cmon, this legislation was truly bi-partisan - (boxley)
                             We'll see if the announced state AG's lawsuits have legs. - (beepster) - (1)
                                 Re: We'll see if the announced state AG's lawsuits have legs - (boxley)
                             If there had ever been - (mhuber)

And if you do find me there, you won't be able to afford me.
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