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Post #322,272
by boxley
3/3/10 10:00:01 AM
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New My american dream involved a roof and regular meals
the fact that there is no public transport in rural areas and most of the US is rural doesnt change because you tell everyone to move to the big city. The big cities dont want poor people. They make it very clear.
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #322,274
by drook
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3/3/10 10:18:49 AM
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New Rural is fine. Urban is fine. Suburbs are the problem.
Suburbs are the reason everything is designed around cars now. And cars are the reason suburbs are practical. (Chicken and egg.) And that system only works when you've got cheap gas.

We keep spending general fund money to keep driving cheap. That's going to keep working right up until someone else wants the gas as much as we do, and China is coming on strong. When there's more demand than supply, things will go pear shaped in a hurry.

Economies that depend on cheap gas will be hurt first and most. Hell, we can't even grow and distribute food without huge inputs of fossil fuels. Most of us (in the suburbs) can't get to work without cars, and there are no public transit options to switch to.
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Drew
     yup, that will really help out the economy - (boxley) - (25) - March 3, 2010, 08:45:58 AM EST
         Yes, it probably would - (drook) - (6) - March 3, 2010, 09:47:26 AM EST
             My american dream involved a roof and regular meals - (boxley) - (1) - March 3, 2010, 10:00:01 AM EST
                 Rural is fine. Urban is fine. Suburbs are the problem. - (drook) - March 3, 2010, 10:18:49 AM EST
             Aussie Dream was similar. - (static) - (3) - March 3, 2010, 05:28:19 PM EST
                 If only we had decent rail coverage - (drook) - (2) - March 3, 2010, 07:06:15 PM EST
                     I hear ya. - (static) - (1) - March 3, 2010, 09:19:04 PM EST
                         They even passed a law in Cleveland once - (drook) - March 4, 2010, 10:04:28 AM EST
         depends on how they do it - (SpiceWare) - (17) - March 3, 2010, 12:31:32 PM EST
             thats one way to do it that would work - (boxley) - (16) - March 3, 2010, 01:13:15 PM EST
                 You're expecting average 15% inflation? You're dreaming. - (Another Scott) - (15) - March 3, 2010, 01:30:29 PM EST
                     Not 15%, but we need *some* - (drook) - (14) - March 3, 2010, 01:46:16 PM EST
                         Agreed. Nobody saves when they're getting 0.5-2%. -NT - (Another Scott) - (13) - March 3, 2010, 02:12:29 PM EST
                             But they have been... - (beepster) - (12) - March 3, 2010, 06:45:30 PM EST
                                 Banks love it. - (Another Scott) - (11) - March 3, 2010, 07:42:39 PM EST
                                     just a matter of time before they start printing money -NT - (boxley) - March 3, 2010, 07:51:52 PM EST
                                     Personal Savings Rate - (beepster) - (9) - March 4, 2010, 08:02:39 AM EST
                                         I don't really think so - (drook) - (7) - March 4, 2010, 09:22:33 AM EST
                                             or the alternative view - (beepster) - (6) - March 4, 2010, 09:59:10 PM EST
                                                 never! I pay rent to a bank - (boxley) - March 4, 2010, 10:38:15 PM EST
                                                 Here's a thought, for anyone looking to do an econ thesis - (drook) - (4) - March 4, 2010, 10:45:01 PM EST
                                                     I know there's a semantic piece to that... - (beepster) - (3) - March 4, 2010, 10:48:40 PM EST
                                                         Yes, some - (drook) - (2) - March 4, 2010, 11:03:26 PM EST
                                                             Some comments by CalculatedRisk - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 5, 2010, 07:45:25 AM EST
                                                                 PCE should be stabilized and shrink as folks age - (boxley) - March 5, 2010, 09:15:24 AM EST
                                         the debt's was written off - (SpiceWare) - March 10, 2010, 07:46:48 PM EST

Using this formulation, the cat can be dead and deader.
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