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If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
New Try reading this instead
http://www.dailykos....r-climate-deniers




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
New climate is not math
what that article gleefully points out that the data is modeled to produce the result you want
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yup, as distinquished as myself
If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
New Nicely concise..
And the replies cogent as well -- a proper admonition given re looking very closely at any determination that a particular station (to be dropped?) is in fact -- a noise producer via, say, SD stats -- or a valid representation of, say, an actual micro-climate. The point well-taken that: measurement error, with real people attending a station: properly determined, should produce much more error than that incorporated via vacuum-cleaning outliers within a given grid.

That rationale could almost define a test-of-the-Tests: a necessary precursor to actually removing a data-contributor: for defensible-Cause.)

(Not that any of this matters even slightly, to the innumerate Murican majority, especially in a time of bloviation manifestly replacing any semblance of actual informed conversation/debate.)
     refreshing scientific news - (boxley) - (5)
         here ya go Box! - (SpiceWare) - (4)
             :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                 Try reading this instead - (lincoln) - (2)
                     climate is not math - (boxley)
                     Nicely concise.. - (Ashton)

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