Your concept of bottom line is different from mine

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Post #319,196 by crazy 12/28/09 7:32:59 AM Reply	Your concept of bottom line is different from mine You get annoyed at a high level label which will then supposedly drive policy in a predicatable fashion. I don't care about the top level labels. I care that we move forward in a good direction. My bottom line is based on every negotiation when going for a specific goal. You don't let the other guy know what is the most important to you, or what you are willing to give up to achieve it. Because he is not ideologue, you will never know. Sorry if some of the pointed to article doesn't match exactly what you feel, but it says many things well about how people simply will not be able to predict what he does, and I think that is a good thing.
Post #319,201 by Another Scott 12/28/09 10:53:20 AM 12/28/09 11:01:35 AM Reply	No worries. Don't let my whining get to you. My annoyance is more a matter of being amazed at the (abysmal) quality of most opinion articles in the major newspapers, major blogs, and on TV than anything else. There are many reasons to be annoyed with Obama - saying that he's an "ideologue, a Chicago poll, who doesn't fight for his true beliefs" (or similar) isn't one of them. IMHO. :-) It seems to me that policy has moved exactly the way he said he wanted it to go. There have been stumbles along the way (Gitmo will take more than a year; Stupak's amendment may or may not make it; etc.). He's probably been too cautious on the economic rescue packages. But in general, he's letting the Congress work out the details and do its job while he sets the bar. We didn't elect a king. [edit:] Krugman covers a related issue in his blog today: http://krugman.blogs...the-empty-center/ Cheers, Scott. Edited by Another Scott Dec. 28, 2009, 11:01:35 AM EST Expand All History
Post #319,203 by boxley 12/28/09 10:54:45 AM Reply	on the other hand, having no policy stances means you cant get pinned down or blamed.
Post #319,211 by crazy 12/28/09 12:01:10 PM Reply	Or submarined

Is he delusional or is he just a pathological liar? - (mmoffitt) - (40) - Dec. 22, 2009, 08:35:09 PM EST

.... - (beepster) - (5) - Dec. 22, 2009, 10:02:38 PM EST

Let me know when the full transcript is available. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2009, 06:34:21 PM EST

If you'll let me know when your arms get tired. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Dec. 24, 2009, 10:48:18 AM EST

Heh. Transcript here. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Dec. 25, 2009, 09:54:01 PM EST

Except.. O. and proofreaders really ought to know the word - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2010, 07:45:27 PM EST

Of course. But it's probably a lost cause. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 9, 2010, 09:45:48 PM EST

Definitely delusional. - (Mycroft_Holmes_Iv) - Dec. 23, 2009, 12:22:09 AM EST

Glenn Greenwald's take - (Ashton) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2009, 05:38:50 AM EST

"And a few dozen other insoluble problems" - (dmcarls) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2009, 12:24:24 PM EST

wait till the 75 year draught hits then watch the fun -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 23, 2009, 01:44:21 PM EST

In the "thou sayest" bin -- - (Ashton) - Dec. 23, 2009, 04:45:48 PM EST

Nah, a political liar - (crazy) - (28) - Dec. 23, 2009, 09:34:27 AM EST

Thank you - (beepster) - Dec. 23, 2009, 09:53:07 AM EST

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (17) - Dec. 24, 2009, 10:47:28 AM EST

Silly comparison - (crazy) - (16) - Dec. 24, 2009, 11:42:33 AM EST

If not the gulag, maybe Gitmo? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (15) - Dec. 27, 2009, 05:53:42 PM EST

Hmm - (crazy) - (14) - Dec. 28, 2009, 07:39:14 AM EST

You tell me. Anyone die at Gitmo? - (mmoffitt) - (13) - Dec. 28, 2009, 05:02:32 PM EST

When did you sneak back in? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 29, 2009, 03:35:44 AM EST

When he got out of gitmo - (crazy) - Dec. 29, 2009, 04:37:56 AM EST

Thought I'd see how many were still Big O believers. ;0) - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 8, 2010, 04:03:42 PM EST

Sure, why not - (crazy) - (8) - Dec. 29, 2009, 05:01:21 AM EST

not just gitmo - (boxley) - (5) - Dec. 29, 2009, 11:15:41 AM EST

Grrr - (crazy) - (4) - Jan. 11, 2010, 07:12:27 AM EST

nope crack is good but compared to the almost - (boxley) - (3) - Jan. 11, 2010, 08:56:15 AM EST

Agreed, but - (crazy) - (2) - Jan. 11, 2010, 09:24:32 AM EST

Contaigion vs. mortality ... I'm sure CDC has the figures -NT - (drook) - Jan. 11, 2010, 09:26:58 AM EST

druggies have a line? ROFL! - (boxley) - Jan. 11, 2010, 09:40:22 AM EST

Sense of scale. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2010, 07:47:14 PM EST

Read above post I just did -NT - (crazy) - Jan. 11, 2010, 07:04:52 AM EST

You need smileys - (crazy) - Jan. 11, 2010, 07:18:21 AM EST

This guy says it quite well - (crazy) - (8) - Dec. 27, 2009, 06:14:47 AM EST

Disagree. I think he misses him completely. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Dec. 27, 2009, 11:00:43 AM EST

Ehh - (crazy) - (5) - Dec. 27, 2009, 11:47:04 AM EST

I don't know how he can be more clear. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Dec. 27, 2009, 05:22:31 PM EST

Your concept of bottom line is different from mine - (crazy) - (3) - Dec. 28, 2009, 07:32:59 AM EST

No worries. Don't let my whining get to you. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Dec. 28, 2009, 11:01:35 AM EST

on the other hand, having no policy stances - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2009, 10:54:45 AM EST

Or submarined -NT - (crazy) - Dec. 28, 2009, 12:01:10 PM EST

Agree with it, except it's too long. - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 27, 2009, 05:56:01 PM EST

You have no concept of an internal monologue, do you?
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