Re: Far Left?
left of dodd nelson et al etc
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Dodd? Nelson?
Hell, why don't you just say "Left of Mussolini"?
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:-D
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ok left of mussolini
leaves you stalim and adolf (yes left, it was the national socialist democratic party)
thanx, bill |
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Nit.
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Socialism
The term most typically refers to Nazism, which was the ideology of the German Nazi Party (National Socialist German Workers' Party), which was led by Adolf Hitler. HTH. Cheers, Scott. |
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wrong source, gotta watch that, here is the platform
sounds like the democrats to me as well as being left of mussolini :-)
http://www.hitler.or...itings/programme/ We demand therefore: |
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I'm not going there - sorry.
How about EB?
http://www.britannic...ational-Socialism National Socialism attempted to reconcile conservative, nationalist ideology with a socially radical doctrine. In so doing, it became a profoundly revolutionary movement—albeit a largely negative one. Rejecting rationalism, liberalism, democracy, the rule of law, human rights, and all movements of international cooperation and peace, it stressed instinct, the subordination of the individual to the state, and the necessity of blind and unswerving obedience to leaders appointed from above. It also emphasized the inequality of men and races and the right of the strong to rule the weak; sought to purge or suppress competing political, religious, and social institutions; advanced an ethic of hardness and ferocity; and partly destroyed class distinctions by drawing into the movement misfits and failures from all social classes. Although socialism was traditionally an internationalist creed, the radical wing of National Socialism knew that a mass base existed for policies that were simultaneously anticapitalist and nationalist. However, after Hitler secured power, this radical strain was eliminated. Don't confuse an (apparent) campaign program with actual policies. Cheers, Scott. |
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Party Platform vs the writings of the victors
mein kampf is full of socialist communist ideals and at the end of the day the reich was identical to stalins russia except for the race hate.
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You gotta watch your sources.
This is an often misconstrued part of Nazism. For those inclined to equate the far left (mensheviks, Troskyites and, arguably, bolsheviks) with the far right (nazis, corporate democrats, republicans, etc.:0) there is far too much emphasis placed on the fascists demand that people "surrender themselves to the State". This is often mis-guidedly equated to leftist socialism (not to be confused with Communism, which shares a lot more with Anarchism than it does with either Socialism or Fascism).
Communism is the ultimate "Power to The People" brigade, Democratic Federalism is "Communism Light" and the Plutocratic/Oligarchic/Nazist state is what we have now which eliminates the rights of the individual (except for those who are more equal than others - read board of directors members) that we have now. My History Prof back at UNCC gave the best description ever of the differences between the far left and the far right. He said either group was capable of the very same atrocities as the other. However, "the Far Left is morally superior because the Leftist commits those atrocities because he is convinced that everyone will be better off for his efforts. The Far Rightist commits those same horrors because he is convinced that he will personally be better off." I'm not nearly the Marxist I once was. But, at 50, I do believe this. Capitalism has its place. It is a wonderful incubator for original ideas that benefit the whole. However, once it matures, once a "company" becomes a corporation that employs more than 20, 30 or 50 people or so, it becomes an entity that stifles innovation. When we (the USA) were infants, the adage used to be "Build a better mouse trap and the world will beat a path to you door." But we matured beyond usefulness. If we were to re-write that adage today it would read something like, "Build a better mouse trap, but be sure you never worked for a mouse trap related company, one of its subsidiaries, nor one of its suppliers and then, if you don't have a non-compete agreement signed with your former employer, maybe you can sell your improved mouse trap. But, only if you have enough cash to fend off the giant mouse trap producers because they will sue you, a legitimate claim not being necessary, on the bet that you will run out of money for legal expenses before they do." That's where we are. And the fat cats own our government. We don't have enough money to put their toadies out of office and because we are a xenophobic group, we cannot find enough common ground to protest conditions with the numbers that would be required. With apologies to Mr. Schultz, "We're Doomed." |
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thanx, made my point better than I did
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box, yer head is so far up yer arse...
that it's sticking out from your collar. This level of ignorance does not occur spontaneously: it must needs come about of set purpose and after sustained effort. Almost better to have marlowe back in our little ecosystem to plug this niche of idiocy into which you've contrived to lodge yourself.
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Oh dear, rand was late for red beret march and picnic
it appears to have made im testy :-) like ash and others I takes my fun where I can find it
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As always, you mistake accuracy for fun-with-dumbth slogans.
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