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Post #315,515
by crazy
10/12/09 3:26:00 PM
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New I tried those mainframe emulators in the past
We had recent mainframe that had cost us $700,000 for the main CPU.

We could have easily run our total corporate workload on a PC at the time. I seem to recall that Xeons and Opterons were out for a while. 1/2 a Xeon was plenty emulate a full Z1 CPU.

When I tried to determine true cost, I got hit with the OS license that IBM would not give us for less than about double the cost of the "real" mainframe.

There was simply no point in looking at any of these devices once you take OS licensing costs into mind. Some are sold as backup for when your mainframe fails, but never for real corporate workload that requires a recent OS license from IBM.
Post #315,530
by static
10/12/09 7:03:27 PM
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New That was one thing they got right.
Licensing the software, not selling it.

By chance, many years ago, I saw a microchannel card that IBM had made that basically a mainframe on a card. I don't know why our guys were looking at it, but I have little doubt that IBM had inferred it was a toy and not to be taken seriously. I imagine it's goal was for system-level development tasks that needed the equivalent of a physical mainframe, which I'm fairly sure my employer at the time would have had no use for (it was a bank). We had a lot of people who looked down at all hardware that wasn't The Mainframe. :-)

Wade.
Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
     DOJ investigating IBM for possible anti-trust violations. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Oct. 7, 2009, 07:04:06 PM EDT
         Lets hope the DOJ works as hard to SLAM IBM as the did... - (folkert) - Oct. 7, 2009, 07:50:10 PM EDT
         If I recall correctly, the last time they did this - (mhuber) - (6) - Oct. 10, 2009, 02:34:22 AM EDT
             naw, the cpm crowd needed to go surfing and cancelled - (boxley) - (5) - Oct. 10, 2009, 09:37:07 AM EDT
                 A little more complex than that. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Oct. 10, 2009, 12:39:03 PM EDT
                     But the reason DOS wasn't IBM in-house - (mhuber) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2009, 09:20:28 AM EDT
                         Re: But the reason DOS wasn't IBM in-house - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2009, 10:19:19 AM EDT
                             alex may have more info, he was in on a lot of it -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2009, 10:37:26 AM EDT
                                 Nah! Not in on it. - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 16, 2009, 03:42:19 PM EDT
         I tried those mainframe emulators in the past - (crazy) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2009, 03:26:00 PM EDT
             That was one thing they got right. - (static) - Oct. 12, 2009, 07:03:27 PM EDT

Like many lawyers, he's overly fond of argument, even when in agreement. Not that anyone here would be into that...
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