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New What flavor was the Kool Aid?
I've made a conscious decision to work a little harder, so that I maintain the ability to use multiple vendors for key parts of my business. I consider it bad practice to commit so fully to one stack that I get locked in, even if only by inertia. I don't want to be completely dependent on any vendor.

I would have thought you'd understand that. But instead you seem to be taking it personally that I'm not making the same decision that your employer has. "I was extremely skeptical ... the entire experience has been very up and down ..." But I am "swatting at imaginary flies".
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Drew
New I said it wasn;t particularly brilliant...
But yes I understand.

I'm not really saying its nirvana, but things "just work".

If you want to beat down Google, fine.

I'm not taking it personal, just giving you my personal view on it.

And yes, personally, I'd rather be using GroupWise from Novell for all this crap... but you know, its just not in the cards.

Summary:
Yes you can *just* send from Google, but you should also have your domain serviced from there for mail. You can remove all mail just like any other pop service and be done with it. That way you can just manage all groups and aliases from hosted gmail.

Last word I'll say on this.
     How to research what spam lists I'm on? - (drook) - (25)
         Dunno for sure. Maybe start with SpamHaus? - (Another Scott)
         didnt they give a hint in the bounce message? - (boxley) - (2)
             senderscore... - (folkert) - (1)
                 Re: senderscore... is a diffeent business model than spamcop - (boxley)
         Good luck... - (folkert) - (20)
             Don't know how much I can do with the host - (drook) - (19)
                 Hence the verb - (mhuber)
                 try to add your sending addy into your address book - (boxley) - (15)
                     I clicked the "not spam" button - (drook) - (14)
                         do you have rdns setup for each? - (boxley) - (13)
                             No, but ... - (drook) - (12)
                                 your senderscore looks okay - (boxley) - (11)
                                     I'm sure it is - (drook) - (10)
                                         USE GOOGLEMAIL for you domain. - (folkert) - (9)
                                             Can I just route outgoing through them? - (drook) - (8)
                                                 About those outages... - (folkert) - (7)
                                                     Fair point - (drook) - (6)
                                                         Not particularly brilliant... - (folkert) - (5)
                                                             What flavor was the Kool Aid? - (drook) - (1)
                                                                 I said it wasn;t particularly brilliant... - (folkert)
                                                             sorry, my business offerings are much better than google - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                 Yeah I know Box... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                     yes -NT - (boxley)
                 You might have to try some social engineering. - (static) - (1)
                     well if its social engineering you need - (boxley)

Don't touch it, it's excrement.
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