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Karl Marx, I understand, lived a respectable, socially conservative life. Benjamin Franklin, on the other hand, was a notorious libertine who hosted a hellfire club and probably lied about that lightning experiment.

What does this tell you about the value of their ideas, their causes, their leadership?

And isn't Bush being a bit of a hypocrite, refusing to personally support the energy industry by getting all cheap on his ranch?
New :-) Speaking of Marx...
If you didn't see it earlier, there's a nice essay by Hitchens in the April issue of The Atlantic, with some funny anecdotes: "The Revenge of Karl Marx" - http://www.theatlant...904/hitchens-marx

Cheers,
Scott.
     bwahahahaha figures - (boxley) - (19)
         House #1 was built how many decades ago? - (lincoln) - (13)
             Doesn't matter how old - (SpiceWare) - (12)
                 So it doesn't matter - (lincoln) - (11)
                     difference in the owners real thoughts on the matter? -NT - (boxley)
                     nope - (SpiceWare) - (9)
                         Aww crap, didn't want to get into this one - (drook) - (4)
                             Says as much in the Snopes article - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                                 True, but ... - (drook) - (2)
                                     the issue for him is saving money - (SpiceWare)
                                     maybe you missed a few things - (boxley)
                         Not that this makes a huge difference, but... - (malraux) - (1)
                             while the email mentions money - (SpiceWare)
                         Re: nope - (lincoln) - (1)
                             I work from home - (SpiceWare)
         Very old news. - (Another Scott) - (4)
             Older news - (mhuber) - (1)
                 :-) Speaking of Marx... - (Another Scott)
             yeah, bush did nothing - (boxley) - (1)
                 I'll play. - (Another Scott)

But don't get all fretty-pants on us.
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