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Post #30,671
by boxley
3/4/02 1:52:01 PM
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New Defining Victory
I agree with how/what objectives were won lost so you are not hopeless after all. Your initial post in the series was about how we kicked butt all the time, every time. that wasnt the case. As far as winning goes, what do you think of this link,
[link|http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0304/p01s03-wosc.html|link]
A day-by-day account of how Osama bin Laden eluded the world's most powerful military machine.
thanx,
bill
There is no difference between a "settler," "soldier," "secular," or "Chassidic Jew." The target is the JEW.
\ufffd Harvey Tannenbaum
Post #30,687
by marlowe
3/4/02 2:56:32 PM
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New What the link demonstrates is what I have already conceded
...namely that the war isn't over yet. It's only been five months, whaddaya expect?

We have removed the Taliban from power, and gained respect from the regimes of Pakistan and of Russia. The first was a subgoal on the way to the ultimate goal. The other is a bonus. All things considered, not bad.

And by the way, I never cliamed we "kicked butt every time." Surely you can read more carefully than that.
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html]
Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
If competence is considered "hubris" then may I and my country always be as "arrogant" as we can possibly manage.
     OpEd: Even without our high tech and superior numbers... - (marlowe) - (34) - March 4, 2002, 10:59:09 AM EST
         I am unsurprised your history is lacking - (ben_tilly) - (26) - March 4, 2002, 11:13:47 AM EST
             Yep... - (bepatient) - (1) - March 4, 2002, 11:25:24 AM EST
                 You need that in every war. - (Brandioch) - March 4, 2002, 11:58:40 AM EST
             You gotta be kidding. - (marlowe) - (18) - March 4, 2002, 12:23:14 PM EST
                 duh, yea they let us win, dumass - (boxley) - (13) - March 4, 2002, 12:46:32 PM EST
                     You'd better tell us how you define " victory" then. - (marlowe) - (12) - March 4, 2002, 01:41:35 PM EST
                         Defining Victory - (boxley) - (1) - March 4, 2002, 01:52:01 PM EST
                             What the link demonstrates is what I have already conceded - (marlowe) - March 4, 2002, 02:56:32 PM EST
                         Where are you pulling your "British Goals" from? - (ben_tilly) - (9) - March 4, 2002, 02:21:21 PM EST
                             So what you're saying is... - (marlowe) - (8) - March 4, 2002, 03:48:51 PM EST
                                 Pressing - (ChrisR) - (3) - March 4, 2002, 04:04:28 PM EST
                                     Be careful what you're excusing, there. - (marlowe) - (2) - March 4, 2002, 08:07:09 PM EST
                                         Believe what you will - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 5, 2002, 07:11:20 AM EST
                                             You project your way of thinking upon them. - (marlowe) - March 5, 2002, 09:20:15 AM EST
                                 Now I understand why people treat you with disbelief - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 4, 2002, 06:43:44 PM EST
                                     Britain started it, US declared it. - (marlowe) - (2) - March 4, 2002, 06:53:13 PM EST
                                         Truth==Blind aceptance of horseshit? - (boxley) - (1) - March 5, 2002, 09:08:58 AM EST
                                             Better mine than yours. -NT - (marlowe) - March 5, 2002, 09:25:31 AM EST
                 I am not kidding - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 4, 2002, 01:38:58 PM EST
                     US attacked first? - (marlowe) - (2) - March 4, 2002, 01:55:38 PM EST
                         dont think so, dont weasel - (boxley) - March 4, 2002, 02:37:09 PM EST
                         Learn some European history please - (ben_tilly) - March 4, 2002, 02:43:48 PM EST
             While I'm not a serious student of this stuff . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - March 5, 2002, 02:01:47 PM EST
                 Nicely arcane angle.. - (Ashton) - (3) - March 5, 2002, 02:25:27 PM EST
                     link to ships - (boxley) - (2) - March 5, 2002, 02:38:22 PM EST
                         I'll have to amend an earlier comment of mine. - (marlowe) - (1) - March 5, 2002, 06:11:02 PM EST
                             On second thought.... - (marlowe) - March 5, 2002, 06:15:36 PM EST
         You forget Korea - (boxley) - March 4, 2002, 11:14:24 AM EST
         I don't think he was in the same army I was. - (Brandioch) - March 4, 2002, 12:36:06 PM EST
         Decisively beaten in Vietnam? - (wharris2) - (4) - March 4, 2002, 04:33:51 PM EST
             I define victory as the meeting of objectives. - (marlowe) - (3) - March 4, 2002, 06:46:59 PM EST
                 Russia? Partial victory - (wharris2) - (2) - March 4, 2002, 07:39:14 PM EST
                     And this why I've long expected another Cold War... - (marlowe) - (1) - March 4, 2002, 08:20:59 PM EST
                         Reading the Bear and the Dragon (Tom Clancy) - (wharris2) - March 4, 2002, 08:28:20 PM EST

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