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Post #30,543 by JayMehaffey 3/3/02 7:58:25 PM Reply	I surprised I'm surprised that Gateway would testify like this. Part of the problem through out the entire law suit has been getting an OEM like Gateway to testify bluntly in court. None of them wanted to take the risk, because if they testify in court and MS doesn't get a breakup level penalty they are screwed. I wondering if the top Gateway executives havn't decided that they are screwed if MS doesn't go down. MS has been squeezing the money out of the OEM buisness for many years. They may have figured that if they do not do something they, along with the other OEMs, will end up no better then the white box assemblers. Of course, that Palm would testify doesn't surprise me. They have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Jay
Post #30,551 by Steven A S 3/3/02 10:11:54 PM Reply	Well, if MS wins this round I guess we could look forward to the Gateway Linux boxes. ~~~)-Steven---- "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..." General George S. Patton
Post #30,553 by Another Scott 3/3/02 10:24:29 PM Reply	There is a history of Gateway battling MS. Some of the evidence at the DOJ antitrust site is internal Gateway memos talking about their battles with MS over licensing and IE. Gateway also was recently a (part?) owner of what's left of Amiga. They've been trying to look at other options. I think Gateway knows they're in danger of becoming another Northgate. A pioneer in the business, often with fast machines with good bang for the buck, but unable to compete with other vendors with cost advantages. They're being crushed by Dell in the PC market now. Dell is in MS's back pocket, they likely get better prices from Intel (being larger and Intel exclusive) and MS (larger, more cooperative) than Gateway, so Ted and Co have to do something. So I'm not really surprised that Gateway is going to be on the witness list. If they were willing to (privately) battle Bill and Co years ago when they were stronger, they have little choice now, IMO. Whether it helps them is another question - they'd have to be willing to be pioneers if they want to be a large PC vendor betting on Linux for the desktop (I don't think VAResearch/Linux counts). Ted has taken some risks, but going Linux in a big way would be a bet-the-company wager, IMO, and I'd be surprised if he went there willingly. Cheers, Scott.
Post #30,558 by nking 3/3/02 11:42:51 PM Reply	Gateway and Amiga IIRC Gateway did own Amiga for a while, and wanted to turn the CD32 into a WebTV type appliance. A 68K based set top box running AmigaOS with a CD or DVD player built in, modem and Ethernet ports, and 32M of RAM. It would have been sweet, only they tried to bundle a big screen TV with it or some other junk. I saw fsck it, go with AmigaOS and use a Dragonball 68K processor like the Palm does, and make a Mini-Amiga handheld, and an AmigaTV set top box unit. Use USB and Firewire for expansion ports. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #30,660 by jb4 3/4/02 1:29:42 PM Reply	Hey, I'd buy one... ...if they'd go back to supplying Athlon processors... jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #30,951 by nking 3/5/02 8:18:55 PM Reply	Gateway the Alternative OS PC company Let's see what they could pre-load: #1 Linux #2 OS/2 or eCS #3 DR-DOS #4 OpenBSD #5 Solaris #6 Darwin #7 BeOS (Even if the company is gone, you can still get the install CD) #8 FreeDOS #9 VT-OS (If they design a TCP/IP stack for it?) #10 [link\|http://www.freedows.org\|Freedows] (If Gateway contributes to it and gets it out of "vaporware" status) "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #30,952 by nking 3/5/02 8:25:34 PM Reply	Freedows Apparently the Freedows main page has been taken over? [link\|http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows/\|[link\|http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows/\|http://sourceforge....ts/freedows/]] for the Sourceforge project. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."

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