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New Palm and Gateway to testify against
[link|http://news.com.com/2100-1001-849845.html|Biting the hand that pushes them around]

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON--Nine states still pursuing an antitrust case against
Microsoft will call executives from Palm and Gateway to testify in
court hearings to help make their case for severe sanctions against
the company, according to a court filing this week.

The states, who have refused to sign on to a settlement between Microsoft
and the U.S. Justice Department, listed executives from the two companies
among more than a dozen witnesses they plan to call during hearings set to
begin on Aug. 11 on what sanctions should be imposed on Microsoft,
according to pre-trial statements filed with U.S. District Judge Colleen
Kollar-Kotelly.

Anthony Fama, a group counsel for Gateway, will testify "that the states'
proposed remedy is necessary to prevent Microsoft from continuing to favor
personal computer manufacturers who support Microsoft's products, to the
disadvantage of personal computer manufacturers who do not," the
dissenting states said in their court filing Friday.

Fama "will testify that Microsoft's Proposed
Remedy does not prohibit this behavior," the states
said.

In addition, Michael Mace, chief competitive officer
of Palm, will testify that Microsoft "has attempted
to block Palm's development through anti-competitive actions
such as blocking access to Microsoft's development tools,"
the dissenting states said.

I say:

Might doesn't make right, but sometimes right makes might. That which doesn't quite kill its victims may make them stronger. More organized, more unified, more courageous. Who will write the history books on Microsoft? And no, Encarta doesn't count. Yet.

Microsoft's problem is that it's more of a parasite than a predator. It can afford to kill its potential competitors, but it can't afford to kill its hosts. It anaesthetises us with hype and then bleeds us almost, but not quite, dry. Palm is a potential competitor that hasn't died just yet, but Gateway is a host, or at least a middleman to the ultimate hosts, who are the users. When the hosts fight back, things get complicated.

Microsoft is like a vast population of mosquitos. We've been swatting them for years, but it's not enough. Time to drain the swamp.
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Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
If competence is considered "hubris" then may I and my country always be as "arrogant" as we can possibly manage.
Expand Edited by marlowe March 3, 2002, 11:45:00 AM EST
New Yeah Baby, yeah!
Let's get the Amiga company to sue, so they can findly get the cash to finish that Super Amiga (or was it Uber Amiga because it is made in Germany?) named the AmigaDE or Amiga One unit?

Could the bloody corpse of the Atari computer company also sue, I mean whomever owns what is left of Atari? After Windows become popular, Atari sank to the bottom of the Computer Sea.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New I surprised
I'm surprised that Gateway would testify like this.

Part of the problem through out the entire law suit has been getting an OEM like Gateway to testify bluntly in court. None of them wanted to take the risk, because if they testify in court and MS doesn't get a breakup level penalty they are screwed.

I wondering if the top Gateway executives havn't decided that they are screwed if MS doesn't go down. MS has been squeezing the money out of the OEM buisness for many years. They may have figured that if they do not do something they, along with the other OEMs, will end up no better then the white box assemblers.

Of course, that Palm would testify doesn't surprise me. They have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Jay
New Well, if MS wins this round
I guess we could look forward to the Gateway Linux boxes.
~~~)-Steven----

"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."

General George S. Patton
New There is a history of Gateway battling MS.
Some of the evidence at the DOJ antitrust site is internal Gateway memos talking about their battles with MS over licensing and IE.

Gateway also was recently a (part?) owner of what's left of Amiga. They've been trying to look at other options.

I think Gateway knows they're in danger of becoming another Northgate. A pioneer in the business, often with fast machines with good bang for the buck, but unable to compete with other vendors with cost advantages. They're being crushed by Dell in the PC market now. Dell is in MS's back pocket, they likely get better prices from Intel (being larger and Intel exclusive) and MS (larger, more cooperative) than Gateway, so Ted and Co have to do something.

So I'm not really surprised that Gateway is going to be on the witness list. If they were willing to (privately) battle Bill and Co years ago when they were stronger, they have little choice now, IMO.

Whether it helps them is another question - they'd have to be willing to be pioneers if they want to be a large PC vendor betting on Linux for the desktop (I don't think VAResearch/Linux counts). Ted has taken some risks, but going Linux in a big way would be a bet-the-company wager, IMO, and I'd be surprised if he went there willingly.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Gateway and Amiga
IIRC Gateway did own Amiga for a while, and wanted to turn the CD32 into a WebTV type appliance. A 68K based set top box running AmigaOS with a CD or DVD player built in, modem and Ethernet ports, and 32M of RAM. It would have been sweet, only they tried to bundle a big screen TV with it or some other junk.

I saw fsck it, go with AmigaOS and use a Dragonball 68K processor like the Palm does, and make a Mini-Amiga handheld, and an AmigaTV set top box unit. Use USB and Firewire for expansion ports.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New Hey, I'd buy one...
...if they'd go back to supplying Athlon processors...
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Gateway the Alternative OS PC company
Let's see what they could pre-load:

#1 Linux

#2 OS/2 or eCS

#3 DR-DOS

#4 OpenBSD

#5 Solaris

#6 Darwin

#7 BeOS (Even if the company is gone, you can still get the install CD)

#8 FreeDOS

#9 VT-OS (If they design a TCP/IP stack for it?)

#10 [link|http://www.freedows.org|Freedows] (If Gateway contributes to it and gets it out of "vaporware" status)

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New Freedows
Apparently the Freedows main page has been taken over?

[link|http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows/|[link|http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows/|http://sourceforge....ts/freedows/]] for the Sourceforge project.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
     Palm and Gateway to testify against - (marlowe) - (8)
         Yeah Baby, yeah! - (nking)
         I surprised - (JayMehaffey) - (6)
             Well, if MS wins this round - (Steven A S) - (5)
                 There is a history of Gateway battling MS. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Gateway and Amiga - (nking)
                 Hey, I'd buy one... - (jb4)
                 Gateway the Alternative OS PC company - (nking) - (1)
                     Freedows - (nking)

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