Moot point.

Post #302,824 by mvitale 1/21/09 8:34:44 PM Reply	Moot point. http://www.cnn.com/2...a.oath/index.html President Obama has retaken the oath of office after a mix-up during the inaugural ceremony, the White House says. -Mike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #302,834 by malraux 1/21/09 10:29:19 PM Reply	He didn't use a Bible this time. Just more fuel for the wingnuts, that's all I'm sayin'. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #302,835 by Another Scott 1/21/09 10:39:47 PM Reply	That pocket Koran, perhaps? Or maybe a Torah? http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=all The family that produced Barack and Michelle Obama is black and white and Asian, Christian, Muslim and Jewish. They speak English; Indonesian; French; Cantonese; German; Hebrew; African languages including Swahili, Luo and Igbo; and even a few phrases of Gullah, the Creole dialect of the South Carolina Lowcountry. Very few are wealthy, and some Â like Sarah Obama, the stepgrandmother who only recently got electricity and running water in her metal-roofed shack Â are quite poor. I knew his family was very diverse, but not quite that diverse! I liked Obama's comment afterward: http://www.talkingpo...n_the_do-over.php Obama stood and walked over to make small talk with pool as roberts donned his black robe. "Are you ready to take the oath?" Roberts asked. "I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," obama replied. Oath took 25 seconds. After a flawless recitation, roberts smiled and said, "congratulations, again." Obama said, "thank you, sir." Smattering of applause. "All right." Obama said. "The bad news for the pool is there's 12 more balls." (The last is reference to the 10 inaugural balls held last night that ran on longer than planned.) Cheers, Scott.
Post #302,921 by Ashton 1/23/09 5:43:31 AM Reply	Yep: Faux's on it http://www.salon.com...2/beck/index.html On cue, Beck criticizes lack of Bible at swearing-in Earlier Thursday, I wrote about some conservatives fretting over the lack of a Bible at Barack Obama's second swearing-in as president. As I noted at the time, the meme hadn't quite gone viral, though there was still plenty of time for that to happen. Well, new Fox News host Glenn Beck took that ball and ran with it on his show Thursday afternoon. In fact, Beck took it one step further, claiming, "I've checked -- we have never had a president sworn into office without a Bible... Does this bother, or just make anybody go, 'Wow, that's a first?'" Research is apparently not Beck's forte, as ThinkProgress points out. There have been at least four presidents who didn't use a Bible at their swearing-in. Additionally, Slate's Noreen Malone notes, "There are no known inauguration Bibles for presidents John Adams through John Tyler; in fact, there's no concrete evidence that those early presidents used a Bible at all for the oath." Bitch.. bitch.. bloviate..
Post #302,924 by folkert 1/23/09 7:21:44 AM 1/23/09 10:21:28 AM Reply	Glenn Beck can... Kiss my BIG FAT WHITE RACIST ASS. *edit: missed an important term. Edited by folkert Jan. 23, 2009, 10:21:28 AM EST Expand All History
Post #302,925 by boxley 1/23/09 8:00:19 AM Reply	well 2 out of 3 aint bad
Post #302,946 by folkert 1/23/09 10:21:32 AM Reply	oops... edited
Post #302,934 by mhuber 1/23/09 8:47:18 AM Reply	What about those past do-overs? Obama's the third President to do-over the oath. I bet none of them used a bible. The bible is just theater, it has no official standing. Personally, swearing on a bible offends my faith. It makes an idol out of what ought to be a tool of faith. Why is it that I, a Catholic (you know, with the statues and the saints and Mary and all that stuff the Protestants call idolatry) who notes that there is no scriptural basis for monotheism, am the only person I know of who is bothered by blatant violations of the First Commandment? It only bothers me when the violation is by someone who claims to follow the Commandments. But when a bible ('a' and lower case intentional. It is not "the word of God" it is a bunch of paper and ink that could be decoded into "the word of God", but probably won't be, particularly when it is a historic artifact that is too precious to actually read.) is used as a strange god, that pretty solidly establishes that the code being violated is the one in use. Flag idolatry tends to be worse, but isn't self-referentially unethical. Just immoral and almost always accidentally unethical. I need to lay off reading Ambrose Bierce for a while. ----------------------------------- Definitions: "Unethical" means violating a specific code of ethics. "Immoral" means violating the sense of right and wrong without necessarily a reference to any particular code.
Post #302,938 by boxley 1/23/09 9:19:50 AM Reply	?? "who notes that there is no scriptural basis for monotheism" there is rather a bunch starting with you shall have no thers altho noted that when the hellenistic pantheon heard about it they all died laughing thanx, bill
Post #302,943 by drook 1/23/09 10:11:18 AM Reply	Nit Using the translation listed on Wikipedia: "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other gods before me." Doesn't say there are no other gods, just that you shall have no others in higher esteem. -- Drew
Post #302,945 by folkert 1/23/09 10:19:43 AM Reply	Another Nit... Does that mean you can't have other gods at the same esteem? Say... Something like "God" == "Allah" Huh? What is your take on that?
Post #302,947 by boxley 1/23/09 10:39:20 AM Reply	allah is the same being with an extra prophet, god didnt change, nature of worship did. They did start with an interesting premise, that there is a full stop, this way until the messiah, messiach, 13th mullah etc shows up, other folks leave room for more direction
Post #302,950 by folkert 1/23/09 10:46:56 AM Reply	Re: allah is the same being Not according to those that worship him.
Post #302,951 by boxley 1/23/09 10:59:47 AM Reply	read their literature sheesh! they have this book called the koran that explains all that
Post #302,952 by folkert 1/23/09 11:08:03 AM Reply	And be even more of an Infidel? You aren't supposed to read it unless you are "of the faith" Please correct me if I am wrong. I don't want to offend a God I can speak or learn about without committing to him.
Post #302,953 by boxley 1/23/09 11:13:21 AM Reply	dont pick up any of Anton la Vey books then lets use a christian saying to describe muslims shall we dont judge christ by the christians works the same way for the muslims no being can tell you what to do or not do, its a free will thingy
Post #302,984 by mhuber 1/23/09 9:07:04 PM Reply	Abraham's wrestling opponent Who has nothing to do with the chant There is only One God The Sun God Ra Ra Ra
Post #302,986 by Andrew Grygus 1/23/09 9:45:44 PM Reply	You are my Sun God, my only Sun God . . . . . you make me happy when skys are gray . . .
Post #302,948 by boxley 1/23/09 10:40:55 AM Reply	monotheism mono (one singular) theism (worship of a higher being) its not for everyone unless you have a real estate contract to enforce
Post #302,958 by Andrew Grygus 1/23/09 11:56:06 AM Reply	The end of monotheism . . . http://www.clovegard...g/monotheism.html
Post #302,959 by Another Scott 1/23/09 12:14:40 PM Reply	:-)
Post #302,967 by folkert 1/23/09 2:58:27 PM Reply	OMG! no KFC needed... just go looky.
Post #302,980 by Ashton 1/23/09 7:32:12 PM Reply	Extra ... er, Wuxtry! Wuxtry! Today God announced: the cloning of His originalÂ Hell: one per cloned-God. Says God: "Anything you can do I can do Bitter."

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