let me guess, history isnt your strong point.

Post #301,471 by boxley 12/24/08 8:31:53 AM Reply	let me guess, history isnt your strong point. As cities grew, people began to realize that the streets would soon be feet-deep in horse crap if some new way to get people and goods in and out for the millions who need them. Machines were needed to replace draft animals. ****************** bwahahahahaha!!
Post #301,476 by Another Scott 12/24/08 9:39:55 AM Reply	Linky. http://www.livingcit...g_city/fs_dev.htm HTH! Cheers, Scott.
Post #301,479 by boxley 12/24/08 9:49:51 AM Reply	linky backatcha :-) http://www.ausbcomp..../cars/carhist.htm Steam power was widely used in the 1880's and 1890's on the farms of America. Cowley County had its share of these behemoths and had a large group of people with the ability to use, and the skill to fix and repair them. The smaller, less expensive automobile, with an internal combustion engine provided a new avenue of interest that was much more personal than the steam engine with its team of attendants. as you noticed the distinct lack of the mention of vehicles in your link the equal lack of the mention of horses in my link, your conclusion that cars were planned to eliminate horses in the city doesnt add up. That was a side effect, not a cause. thanx, bill
Post #301,481 by Another Scott 12/24/08 10:06:33 AM Reply	You're misreading me. I simply said that something had to replace horses in large cities. Things that replaced them included trains and subways (powered by steam and later electricity), cable cars, buses, trucks, cars, etc. Yes, there were trains and cable cars and subways before the horses were eliminated. http://www.apta.com/...tory/mileston.cfm But it wasn't until electric trains and gasoline and diesel powered vehicles took off that horses became much less popular in cities. A modern city cannot function with draft animals providing most of the power. Some type of machine had to replace them. Cheers, Scott.
Post #301,482 by boxley 12/24/08 10:31:13 AM Reply	It appears I did misread you Draft animals and large cities can work, the horse is not one of them. Machines can help but also hinder. Co-operative mechanical delivery to central depots followed by individual delivery by consumers works best. Think NYC no real nead for a car unless leaving the city. Some people like to live like that. Im not one of them. I think waste recycling should be decentralized. Units that collect the waste in a building use it to generate heat and electricity before taking balance elsewhey for further processing would be useful.
Post #301,580 by mhuber 12/26/08 7:07:16 PM Reply	A modern city cannot function with millions of cars providing most of the power. Ref: one look at Mexico D.F.

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