Post #301,456
12/23/08 9:22:25 PM
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If Hansen were looking to get rich, he wouldn't be at NASA.
Hansen feels passionately about his life's work. Most people do when they're able to work on things they really care about. Some people are motivated by more than money.
http://seedmagazine....new_scientist.php
Really, Box, you can disagree with him without impugning his motives.
And it would be good if you applied as much skepticism to the critics of anthropomorphic climate change as you do to the experts. I'll get you started:
http://www.sourcewat...e_change_skeptics
:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #301,470
12/24/08 8:29:35 AM
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If hansen wasnt at nasa he would find it hard to get a job
I have met scientific types that work in government because they are too fucking blind and stupid about their wrong obsessions to get a job elsewhere. Biologists are not much different.
thanx,
bill
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Post #301,474
12/24/08 9:27:22 AM
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Hansen's CV
http://www.columbia....hansen_200702.pdf
Idiots don't get elected to the NAS.
Anecdotes aren't evidence, Box.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #301,475
12/24/08 9:35:03 AM
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does he believe than c02 belched from a volcano
is bigger than the same element farted from a car? If so he moves from scientist to priest, CV aside
thanx,
bill
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Post #301,478
12/24/08 9:45:10 AM
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We've been through volcanoes multiple times, Box.
http://gristmill.gri...6/12/17/223957/72
The fact of the matter is, the sum total of all CO2 out-gassed by active volcanoes amounts to about 1/150th of anthropogenic emissions.
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #301,480
12/24/08 9:50:18 AM
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nice duck there,
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Post #301,525
12/25/08 1:13:45 AM
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.. if you think a duck resembles a coffin-nail, perhaps.
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Post #301,529
12/25/08 8:52:31 AM
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point==missed
the postulation that the c02 element itself is larger, as in size of a single element when emitted from a volcano than the physical size of a single c02 element when emitted from a car exhaust, as proclaimed by some, leaves the realm of science for religion. I was inquiring if the high priest under discussion also held that tenet.
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Post #301,534
12/25/08 9:40:41 AM
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You, and they, apparently misunderstand the argument.
1) Volcanoes are not a major source of CO2. (They are a major source of SO2, but that's a completely different compound. http://www.temis.nl/aviation/so2.php)
2) CO2 is made of carbon and oxygen. They both have isotopes - atoms with the same number of protons (6 for Carbon, 8 for Oxygen) but different numbers of neutrons. These isotopes have different properties and their ratios in a sample of gas can give lots of information - like whether the carbon was recently part of the atmosphere or whether it was locked up in the Earth for millions of years. The ratio changes because one of the carbon isotopes is radioactive, so the ratio of C14 to C12 changes over time.
http://en.wikipedia....sotopes_of_carbon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen-16
http://www.physicsfo....php/t-29375.html
All of this is known and accepted science. There is no controversy about the physics.
Where it gets complicated is in the details. How are the samples taken? How are they protected from contamination? How are they analyzed? What are the error bars (how accurately are the numbers known, and what is the real precision of the value)?
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #301,556
12/26/08 2:44:16 AM
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re all the ad hominems: prend moi tel que je suis
(I won't attribute simple-malice to you for the frequent baseless calumniation of parties unknown; I believe there is another cause.)
Here's someone else who slogs to a different drummer, trusting that her certainty-of-a-negative (correlation) supersedes the (surely-mistaken) assessments of those legions of plodders, not remotely as ept in diagnosis or treatment.
(It is unclear if solipsism per se, is yet a punishable offense, or merely actions which ensue from such an expressed mindset.)
The unnecessary death of a little girl
http://open.salon.co...source=newsletter
Now, as to whether denial of say, 'ongoing planetary disease' may also be conflated within the precedent of Prince v Massachusetts -?- that clearly limns a problem which might stump the USSC, Focus on the Farmily Valuez and other ad hoc institutions of fact or neurasthenia.
I am confident however, that a superior arbiter exists:
the IGM shall be able to conduct this official comparison in exemplary manner (given the many self-attributed virtues of its humbly-brilliant members.)
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
-- H.L. Mencken
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Post #301,562
12/26/08 10:25:33 AM
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so lets pretend shall we?
the broad goes into the hospital with the kid trumpeting to all and sundry that she and the kid has HIV so explain in detail the different medications and steps taken to treat pneumonia in that case that does not apply to a child with pneumonia without aids, anxiously awaiting your reply.
Somehow I imagine the answer is nuffink different
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Post #301,573
12/26/08 4:57:46 PM
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Is it that you don't read for comprehension
or, that you Can't?
Pneumocystis is an otherwise harmless bacteria that causes pneumonia only in people who are severely compromised by AIDS or other immunologic failures.
Why did Christine Maggiore withhold this critical information?
She did it because she is an activist who believes that HIV does not cause AIDS.
Sheesh ... get thee to a comprehensive Comprehension analyst before you
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
-- H.L. Mencken
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Post #301,576
12/26/08 5:44:10 PM
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my bad, just saw the pnemonia, HIV causes aids?
I thought having unprotected sex with someone who has aids caused aids. Learn something new every day
thanx,
bill
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