Ummm... and they say the "Flor-i-duh" is inapropos

Post #300,182 by folkert 11/22/08 12:12:58 AM Reply	Ummm... and they say the "Flor-i-duh" is inapropos http://blogs.tampaba...grant-fragra.html No... sorry, it fits perfectly. Beep, is it truly better in the "Sunshine shone up yur ass" state?
Post #300,183 by Another Scott 11/22/08 7:56:41 AM Reply	I don't see the problem. He was being disruptive in class in at least two ways. He was screaming out for attention in inappropriate ways. At 13, he should have learned long ago that there are good ways and bad ways of seeking attention. The teacher was right to elevate this above sitting in the corner - the student needs to quickly learn the rules of appropriate behavior. It would have been a little different, IMO, if he were say 7. The officer was correct to interview him and release him to his mother. I hope that along the way the adults impressed upon him that he needs to straighten up. I hope she takes this as a gentle warning as well - he's too old to be acting this way in class. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, by the news story. Too many news people seem to think that teachers are incompetent and unable to handle "simple" situations. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #300,186 by beepster 11/22/08 9:40:47 AM Reply	Couple of things its not the first time http://www.tcpalm.co...1958-24smobriefs/ and the school is an alternative school...apparently focusing on kids that aren't going to make it in the general environment...so its a school full of kids like that or worse...making it very likely that the sro will "over-react" like this very often. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #300,187 by Another Scott 11/22/08 10:21:50 AM Reply	How did the SRO overreact in the original article? In the second, it's hard to know if the SRO overreacted - we weren't there. It doesn't sound to me like he did. Without more evidence, you have to trust people in authority to carry out their jobs. IOW, if they're given pepper spray and a Taser, then one has to assume they are given proper training and discretion on when to use it and when to threaten to use it. Again, I don't see the problem. Children must learn to obey the rules and do as instructed. If there's a problem with the rules and the instructions, well that's something for adults to address. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #300,188 by beepster 11/22/08 10:32:57 AM Reply	Why I quoted that. because given the nature of the students...its entirely likely that it wasn't an over-reaction I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #300,197 by boxley 11/22/08 11:02:31 PM Reply	take away sniggering and farting, what else can you do in middle school? nother, I spent some time in FLA some cops there should not be allowed out in public with guns and tasers, at least one of those cops got bounced off the force and got a job as a sro in wellington middle school,
Post #300,205 by Another Scott 11/23/08 9:21:58 AM Reply	Most kids don't do that kind of disruption. (I recall some of your earlier posts about the FL schools. :-<) I was a terrible cut-up at times in school. I know what it's like to crave attention and be frustrated when the rest of the class could do things that I couldn't. But, I grew out of that in 2nd grade... What else can you do in middle school? How about learn stuff, learn how to get along with others, and learn how to control your urges and emotions as your body changes? That's what most of us learned in middle school. (I know you were being a little snarky. ;-) I know that there are too many Sadists out there, and too many of them get jobs as cops or security workers, or SROs, and too many kids are abused or worse. E.g. http://www.nospank.net/n-l67r.htm That doesn't change the (apparent) facts in these cases. These kids need help, but as much as that, they need to understand that part of life is learning to follow instructions - yes, even from those who they and we disagree with. Cheers, Scott.
Post #300,211 by folkert 11/23/08 2:37:45 PM Reply	My whole point here... Is that SRO(s) need(s) to be heavily monitor... But not through the media. Once it gets to the media, something has gone far to far. Either that or Florida has some extremely slow news days. Now, I'm inclined to believe both, but come on the media is supposed to have "feel good" stories about these schools, not report on those students that aren't as well behaved as other, even in that school. Its amazing to watch us obviate "he deserved it" and "he was acting out badly"... yes I'll agree, but WHY OH WHY am I reading about it in a newspaper?
Post #300,215 by Another Scott 11/23/08 4:18:34 PM Reply	There's no accounting for taste in the reporters/editors.:-/
Post #300,219 by static 11/23/08 5:55:52 PM Reply	Besides Most of us learned how to be "creative" in our classroom behaviour without being disruptive. I recall two fellow-students who would imitate a drum machine whilst waiting for the teacher to actually teach. It was amusing and entertaining and they stopped when the class got going. I also recall conversations during class on a shared sheet of paper (we taught ourselves a non-Roman script from a novel) with another friend, but the teacher didn't stop us because we were still doing our class-work. :-) Wade.
Post #300,324 by mhuber 11/26/08 1:10:42 PM Reply	The headline is the only real problem If the kid was arrested just for farting, that would be one thing. But from the sound of it, that was just part of the disruption. Repeatedly turning off computers while people are using them can be extremely disruptive. I was in an office where doing it once resulted in a near fist-fight and an immediate firing with security escort off the premises. Actually, it was the guy whose computer got turned off that was fired, and it was a damned good thing because he was a psycho who had laid out (to me) a plan to go postal and our boss was refusing to act on it. But still, I strongly suspect that the farting was not what got the kid arrested or even in trouble. It just makes a better headline.

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