I know you hate futzing with Linux...

Post #298,584 by folkert 10/29/08 6:49:41 PM Reply	I know you hate futzing with Linux... But I guess its just something of a curse for you. Please lets remember that. Then we have people like me that have nearly ZERO issues over the years (yes I have had a couple) Overall for me, it just works.
Post #298,587 by boxley 10/29/08 7:51:40 PM Reply	linux I run it on a desktop at work because it is better than windows as a remote head for servers I dislike some of the increased complexity of the last few years from an admin point of view of course I still use getty so what do I know :-) if lemmy and god had a wrestling match who would win?
Post #298,591 by malraux 10/29/08 9:24:42 PM Reply	There's more to it than that. Logic Pro and video editing, for two. Regards, -scott <i>Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.</i>
Post #298,609 by mvitale 10/30/08 9:00:39 AM Reply	Yes. Yes I do. And I would submit that I have a MUCH higher tolerance for computer-related pain than your average user. Based on that, I will submit (and I would have maintained even when I used it) that Linux is not ready for the general-user's desktop experience. There are lots and lots of really smart people working on Linux. But they're way too involved in internal politics of my-kit-is-better-than-your-kit (KDE vs. GNOME, rabid GNU adherents vs. those who would rather just get stuff done, etc.) There's a missing of the forest for the trees. We should be further along than we are by now. It's sad that Linux isn't there yet. -Mike
Post #298,616 by folkert 10/30/08 10:37:25 AM Reply	You have HIT the complete problem... NOT Building on others work and being all NIH (Not Invented Here)... Case in point, HP making its own Linux distro, except... They host many of Debian Machines that BUILD Debian, many that HOST master Debian repositories, the Mailing List machine(s), QA Machines, Experimental machines. IOW, HP really does host Debian hugely. That whole attitude pervades the entire Linux mindset. Worst part of it is... EVERYONE wants to either work on the "Next Best Thing" or Eye Candy or nothing of real substance to getting things like YOU experienced fixed.
Post #298,647 by pwhysall 10/30/08 6:04:14 PM Reply	My feelings in a nutshell. Windows is too much aggravation on a daily basis, so I only use that for non-gaming activities when someone's willing to pay me for it. Linux doesn't do the things I need and, as the recent shenanigans (still only kludged around, rather than fixed) on odin show, bites me in the poorly-documented arse from time to time. Linux is great for serving Java applications and stuff like that. It's not so great for lazy bastids like me who just want to read their mail, do a little surfing, play a few games and have truly great font rendering. It's the little things like the services; the text areas with built in grammar and spell checking; apps like Delicious Library; iTunes (yeah, some hate it. I love it.). The fact that Jobs rules the GUI with an iron fist means that you don't get the Windows Disease of every company feeling the need to reinvent the toolbox/menu/GUI to achieve "brand separation". I've never pretended that OS X will work for everyone, but it works for me. My very first reaction to OS X, some five years ago, was "this is how it was supposed to be!". I've not had any real cause to change that opinion yet.
Post #298,649 by static 10/30/08 7:11:00 PM Reply	Heh. I discovered some years ago that it was not taken amiss if I told IT recruiters that I don't want a job supporting Windows servers. It's too stressful. Probably gave a few of them pause for thought... Wade.
Post #298,662 by boxley 10/30/08 8:51:23 PM Reply	Ive felt like that since NeXt, way it should be easy peasy on the fron end, unixy enuff in a terminal server for dodderers if lemmy and god had a wrestling match who would win?

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