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Post #29,663
by mhuber
2/25/02 5:31:05 PM
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New One more time...
The guy is a liar and I'm not defending him.

However, the definition of sex story was rather heavily spun. He was in a courtroom. They handed him a slip of paper with a definition of sex and asked if he accepted it. The definition was rather broad and he declined and presented another definition. Both definitions had been used in various legal contexts. The Jay Leno version has him just making up new definitions of obvious words whenever he feels like it. The actual events were that he was doing a standard lawyer thing, arguing which of the available definitions should apply in this case.

The guy's a lawyer. Put him in a courtroom and he's going to act like one.
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"You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
Post #29,898
by drewk
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2/26/02 5:38:29 PM
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New That wasn't the big one
They handed him a slip of paper with a definition of sex and asked if he accepted it.

The quote that everyone got hung up on was, "That depends on what your definition of 'is' is." It's hard not to see that as twisting the language. If, as some have argued, that's "just what lawyers do," I don't see that as mitigating what Clinton did but as a condemnation of what lawers do.
I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make.
I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #29,908
by mhuber
2/26/02 6:30:54 PM
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New I see that as a condemnation of
people who elect lawyers as leaders on a regular basis.

I don't hate lawyers. I'd feel the same way if firefighters were elected as often as lawyers are.

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"You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
     Truth, facts, and sour grapes. - (marlowe) - (64) - Feb. 22, 2002, 02:04:55 PM EST
         And that's your "Truth"? - (Brandioch) - (28) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:08:32 PM EST
             For those who need to think in concrete terms. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:29:04 PM EST
             Planet of the Whiners. - (marlowe) - (2) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:42:35 PM EST
                 Reply to my other post, then. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:13:02 PM EST
                 Whiners and the truth - (nking) - Feb. 22, 2002, 10:20:57 PM EST
             To illustrate it with math. - (Brandioch) - (23) - Feb. 22, 2002, 06:17:43 PM EST
                 It's not a coin toss for all of us. - (marlowe) - (22) - Feb. 23, 2002, 08:38:40 AM EST
                     Before you go... If I may... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2002, 09:32:44 AM EST
                         Don't forget the initial assumptions. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:36:03 PM EST
                         If that's really his point... - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 02:54:06 PM EST
                             Reality just doesn't exist for you, does it? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:47:55 PM EST
                     No random chance here - (nking) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:31:35 PM EST
                     You still don't want to see the facts. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 23, 2002, 12:40:16 PM EST
                         Some people have to lie to get to the truth - (nking) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2002, 06:20:05 PM EST
                             One more time... - (mhuber) - (2) - Feb. 25, 2002, 05:31:05 PM EST
                                 That wasn't the big one - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2002, 05:38:29 PM EST
                                     I see that as a condemnation of - (mhuber) - Feb. 26, 2002, 06:30:54 PM EST
                     Once.. such hubris might have been entertaining - (Ashton) - (7) - Feb. 23, 2002, 06:00:19 PM EST
                         How hubristic of you to presume you know better than I. - (marlowe) - (6) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:46:44 PM EST
                             Marlowe defeated the Nazis? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:54:05 PM EST
                             Ah.. there's the root/rub: John Dewey Pragmatism lives! - (Ashton) - (4) - Feb. 26, 2002, 04:00:28 PM EST
                                 I'm still waiting for him to explain Clinton. - (Brandioch) - (3) - Feb. 26, 2002, 04:10:47 PM EST
                                     Attila got even More done.. - (Ashton) - Feb. 26, 2002, 05:25:39 PM EST
                                     Only on planet Brandioch. - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:00:13 AM EST
                                         Thus proving my point. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:54:04 AM EST
                     Another illustration - The Placebo Effect. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2002, 12:38:53 PM EST
                         Re: "The Truth" according to the Rev. Ashcroft. - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 24, 2002, 01:09:51 PM EST
                         Oops - blong under Alex, re Ashcroft - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2002, 05:21:40 PM EST
                             Yes, one can always hope for s sense of humor. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 24, 2002, 05:45:52 PM EST
         A relevant fact you should note - (ben_tilly) - (29) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:35:52 PM EST
             Re: A relevant fact you should note - (Steve Lowe) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:47:23 PM EST
             Duly noted. - (marlowe) - (27) - Feb. 22, 2002, 04:55:17 PM EST
                 Mrs. Scarlett, in the library, with the candlestick. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 22, 2002, 05:29:09 PM EST
                 Since this is the Religion, Philosophy and Meta - (screamer) - (25) - Feb. 25, 2002, 01:41:21 PM EST
                     Real life is the reference point. - (marlowe) - (24) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:28:03 PM EST
                         Real life? Who's real life? - (screamer) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2002, 11:21:33 PM EST
                             The sun'll come up tomorrow... - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:48:43 AM EST
                                 When I think of a day that grey and lonely... - (screamer) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:59:03 AM EST
                         Oh, and by the way, did you even read my post? - (screamer) - (20) - Feb. 26, 2002, 11:42:00 PM EST
                             You realize you're agreeing with him? - (drewk) - (19) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:06:21 AM EST
                                 To quote Professor Jones. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:34:36 AM EST
                                     Too easy - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:57:53 AM EST
                                         Which brings us back to "The Truth" (please note the "T"'s) - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:29:02 AM EST
                                 I'm affraid I can't give you that point entirely... - (screamer) - (12) - Feb. 27, 2002, 11:52:25 AM EST
                                     Certainty != Truth - (drewk) - (11) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:26:46 PM EST
                                         Shame on me... Semantics 101 - (screamer) - (10) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:13:29 PM EST
                                             What I meant - (drewk) - (9) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:30:33 PM EST
                                                 It's good to see you finally joining me. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:39:04 PM EST
                                                     Gee, tough question - (drewk) - (5) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:06:51 PM EST
                                                         Ah, another "proof" of my point. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:24:57 PM EST
                                                             Your point is rather dull - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2002, 03:50:34 PM EST
                                                                 Re-read your posts. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:23:50 PM EST
                                                                     No need - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 04:52:13 PM EST
                                                                         Yes you do need to. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 05:22:43 PM EST
                                                 Fair. - (screamer) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 02:05:42 PM EST
                                                     What we clever animals are up to - (Ashton) - Feb. 27, 2002, 10:19:12 PM EST
                                 Recall the full quote. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:49:15 PM EST
                                     I don't see the problem - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 12:59:23 PM EST
                                         So why can't you answer my question? - (Brandioch) - Feb. 27, 2002, 01:08:11 PM EST
         Having read for comprehension, with all previous judgments - (Ashton) - Feb. 22, 2002, 07:04:24 PM EST
         a couple of thoughts - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2002, 12:08:24 AM EST
             Well, that's what you get for not doing a reality check. - (marlowe) - Feb. 26, 2002, 03:36:19 PM EST
         But you can't. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2002, 08:17:09 AM EST
             You even quoted it - (drewk) - Feb. 27, 2002, 09:10:14 AM EST

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