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Post #29,526 by boxley 2/23/02 11:54:19 PM Reply	why do you blame the makers for stupidity of the drivers? Short wheel base, High center of gravity != sharp turns at any speed. Common freakin sense. thanx, bill "I'm selling a hammer," he says. "They can beat nails with it, or their dog." Richard Eaton spy software innovator
Post #29,537 by Ashton 2/24/02 2:20:13 AM Reply	So you'd let M$ off the hook too?
Post #29,602 by boxley 2/25/02 9:17:59 AM Reply	If the government mandated they make Windoze, yes Dont forget where these sport yutes came from. They are a direct result of the government CAF legislation. When was the last station wagon made? How come you dont see any new ones? CAF is why, so under the Federal Mandates only trucks could be designed to carry enough passengers efficiently so blame all the deaths on government regulation because the federal government stopped the automakers from making station wagons, one of the safest vehicles on the road and insisted they make sport yutes which kill people. Legislation kills :( thanx, bill "I'm selling a hammer," he says. "They can beat nails with it, or their dog." Richard Eaton spy software innovator
Post #29,611 by drewk 2/25/02 10:00:05 AM Reply	Wagons are coming back The American manufacturers are making small and mid-size wagons. (Ford Escort and Taurus, Saturn) Several Japanese and European sedans have wagon versions: VW Passat, Toyota Camry, several Volvos, Audi, Mercedes even, plus more. But you're right that there aren't any of the "Family Truckster" variety like the Caprice Classic/Buick Roadmaster: V8 and 7-passenger plus towing capacity. I had been looking at minivans because I've got a dog, two cats and a toddler. If we're going anywhere for a weekend we have to at least drop the animals off somewhere first, so we need to fit everyone in the vehicle at once. I started looking at wagons when I saw a really clean Volvo 850 Turbo on a used car lot. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]

Addicts support terrorism. - (Silverlock) - (36) - Feb. 19, 2002, 09:57:10 AM EST

let me put my strontium90 generator - (boxley) - (35) - Feb. 19, 2002, 10:13:38 AM EST

So it's a non issue with you? - (Silverlock) - (1) - Feb. 19, 2002, 11:20:29 AM EST

Between the Oil companies and the ecowhiners were screwed - (boxley) - Feb. 19, 2002, 12:39:31 PM EST

Hey Box; thought you were too smart - (Ashton) - (32) - Feb. 19, 2002, 05:01:28 PM EST

Everyone whines about energy and we already have the - (boxley) - (30) - Feb. 19, 2002, 06:23:28 PM EST

I'm asking for a special favor - (Silverlock) - (28) - Feb. 19, 2002, 11:08:07 PM EST

The Air Farce uses these generators in Alaska - (boxley) - (27) - Feb. 20, 2002, 08:54:56 AM EST

I think there'e more to it.. - (Ashton) - (26) - Feb. 20, 2002, 07:57:22 PM EST

scaling up would present problems but no one looks!! - (boxley) - (25) - Feb. 21, 2002, 08:51:50 AM EST

As I think Rick M. pointed out a while back - - (Ashton) - (24) - Feb. 21, 2002, 09:50:16 AM EST

Speaking of UAVs, er SUVs... - (a6l6e6x) - (21) - Feb. 21, 2002, 11:51:39 AM EST

There's always a counterpoint - (wharris2) - Feb. 21, 2002, 01:24:30 PM EST

Thanks for general reminder - had it marked. - (Ashton) - (19) - Feb. 21, 2002, 01:59:47 PM EST

You're mixing up the Expedition with the Excursion again. :) -NT - (Another Scott) - (10) - Feb. 21, 2002, 09:22:47 PM EST

OK Make it the &%#@* Lincoln Navigator: ONE of them weighs - (Ashton) - (9) - Feb. 22, 2002, 03:02:29 AM EST

Nope. Navigator = Expedition. GVW <> Curb Weight. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 22, 2002, 07:45:41 AM EST

Yeah we did.. and ONE of those Does Weigh 7300# - (Ashton) - (2) - Feb. 22, 2002, 05:03:57 PM EST

No need. I remember some mechanics. :-) - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2002, 09:50:35 AM EST

Agreement. - (Ashton) - Feb. 23, 2002, 03:39:46 PM EST

ya wanna stop soccer moms from driving them? - (boxley) - (4) - Feb. 22, 2002, 09:41:26 AM EST

I just hate them - (wharris2) - (3) - Feb. 22, 2002, 12:41:37 PM EST

use the florida method of backing up blind - (boxley) - Feb. 23, 2002, 11:50:33 PM EST

Great timing - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2002, 08:52:53 AM EST

A photo of that view - ALONE - (Ashton) - Feb. 25, 2002, 06:29:23 PM EST

So... NOBODY here: watched "Rollover" last night on PBS? - (Ashton) - (7) - Feb. 22, 2002, 05:30:59 PM EST

[raises hand] - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 22, 2002, 05:48:43 PM EST

Thanks, Drew - (Ashton) - Feb. 22, 2002, 06:16:26 PM EST

>RAISE HAND< Having mentioned it, I watched it as well. - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 22, 2002, 09:14:34 PM EST

why do you blame the makers for stupidity of the drivers? - (boxley) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2002, 11:54:19 PM EST

So you'd let M$ off the hook too? -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2002, 02:20:13 AM EST

If the government mandated they make Windoze, yes - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2002, 09:17:59 AM EST

Wagons are coming back - (drewk) - Feb. 25, 2002, 10:00:05 AM EST

Nit on the pope thing - (mhuber) - (1) - Feb. 21, 2002, 01:52:04 PM EST

Oops - right; Cardinal then? - (Ashton) - Feb. 21, 2002, 02:17:46 PM EST

RTGs aren't a cure-all. - (Another Scott) - Feb. 20, 2002, 12:07:20 AM EST

"Expedition buying Patriots" - THAT IS CLASSIC!!! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 20, 2002, 09:00:57 AM EST

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