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New You still don't want to see the facts.
In real life, inferring from data works, far more often than not.
Really? So Clinton was right and had "The Truth"?

Ah, once again, you fall into the trap of assuming that your opinions are as valid data points as reproducable experiments. Sorry, your mind is no where near stable enough to make that claim.

It yields results that in turn yield results, that in turn get things done.
That depends upon what your "data" is. I notice you are unable to answer my question as to whether Clinton had "The Truth". He seemed to meet all your criteria, yet you don't seem to like the guy. Wouldn't that make you opposed to "The Truth"?

Why can't you answer the question?

Maybe for you everything is a coin toss.
And this is one of the reasons why I keep pointing out that your "Truth" is nothing more than your opinions. You can't even tell an analogy from the real thing. If you have that much trouble with simple analogies, I can only imagine the trouble you'll have with real life.

Which is probably why you can't answer my question about Clinton.

With this atttude, you're unlikely to learn anything useful. I wonder how you manage to hold a job. Are you a PHB or an academic or something? Surely you're not someone who gets things done, except perhaps on planet Brandioch. Why, I wouldn't trust you to change a light bulb. You'd probably flip a coin a dozen times to determine if it needs changing, and then decide the light bulb doesn't exist.
Like I said. It was an analogy and you aren't capable of telling the difference.

Well, I'm off for a few days to get some stuff done away from my computers.
Translation: "I'm running and hiding so I won't have to answer your questions and I hope this topic will scroll."

New Some people have to lie to get to the truth
or in Clinton's case, his own version of the truth. Apparently he didn't consider a BJ as sexual relations. His wife wasn't that upset about it. It doesn't make it right, but it kind of gets into that grey area of truth. not really a lie, and not the truth either. Sort of a half-truth?

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New One more time...
The guy is a liar and I'm not defending him.

However, the definition of sex story was rather heavily spun. He was in a courtroom. They handed him a slip of paper with a definition of sex and asked if he accepted it. The definition was rather broad and he declined and presented another definition. Both definitions had been used in various legal contexts. The Jay Leno version has him just making up new definitions of obvious words whenever he feels like it. The actual events were that he was doing a standard lawyer thing, arguing which of the available definitions should apply in this case.

The guy's a lawyer. Put him in a courtroom and he's going to act like one.
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"You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
New That wasn't the big one
They handed him a slip of paper with a definition of sex and asked if he accepted it.

The quote that everyone got hung up on was, "That depends on what your definition of 'is' is." It's hard not to see that as twisting the language. If, as some have argued, that's "just what lawyers do," I don't see that as mitigating what Clinton did but as a condemnation of what lawers do.
I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make.
I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
New I see that as a condemnation of
people who elect lawyers as leaders on a regular basis.

I don't hate lawyers. I'd feel the same way if firefighters were elected as often as lawyers are.

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"You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
     Truth, facts, and sour grapes. - (marlowe) - (64)
         And that's your "Truth"? - (Brandioch) - (28)
             For those who need to think in concrete terms. - (Brandioch)
             Planet of the Whiners. - (marlowe) - (2)
                 Reply to my other post, then. - (Brandioch)
                 Whiners and the truth - (nking)
             To illustrate it with math. - (Brandioch) - (23)
                 It's not a coin toss for all of us. - (marlowe) - (22)
                     Before you go... If I may... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                         Don't forget the initial assumptions. - (Brandioch)
                         If that's really his point... - (marlowe) - (1)
                             Reality just doesn't exist for you, does it? - (Brandioch)
                     No random chance here - (nking)
                     You still don't want to see the facts. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                         Some people have to lie to get to the truth - (nking) - (3)
                             One more time... - (mhuber) - (2)
                                 That wasn't the big one - (drewk) - (1)
                                     I see that as a condemnation of - (mhuber)
                     Once.. such hubris might have been entertaining - (Ashton) - (7)
                         How hubristic of you to presume you know better than I. - (marlowe) - (6)
                             Marlowe defeated the Nazis? - (Brandioch)
                             Ah.. there's the root/rub: John Dewey Pragmatism lives! - (Ashton) - (4)
                                 I'm still waiting for him to explain Clinton. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                     Attila got even More done.. - (Ashton)
                                     Only on planet Brandioch. - (marlowe) - (1)
                                         Thus proving my point. - (Brandioch)
                     Another illustration - The Placebo Effect. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                         Re: "The Truth" according to the Rev. Ashcroft. - (a6l6e6x)
                         Oops - blong under Alex, re Ashcroft - (Ashton) - (1)
                             Yes, one can always hope for s sense of humor. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         A relevant fact you should note - (ben_tilly) - (29)
             Re: A relevant fact you should note - (Steve Lowe)
             Duly noted. - (marlowe) - (27)
                 Mrs. Scarlett, in the library, with the candlestick. - (Brandioch)
                 Since this is the Religion, Philosophy and Meta - (screamer) - (25)
                     Real life is the reference point. - (marlowe) - (24)
                         Real life? Who's real life? - (screamer) - (2)
                             The sun'll come up tomorrow... - (marlowe) - (1)
                                 When I think of a day that grey and lonely... - (screamer)
                         Oh, and by the way, did you even read my post? - (screamer) - (20)
                             You realize you're agreeing with him? - (drewk) - (19)
                                 To quote Professor Jones. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                     Too easy - (drewk) - (1)
                                         Which brings us back to "The Truth" (please note the "T"'s) - (Brandioch)
                                 I'm affraid I can't give you that point entirely... - (screamer) - (12)
                                     Certainty != Truth - (drewk) - (11)
                                         Shame on me... Semantics 101 - (screamer) - (10)
                                             What I meant - (drewk) - (9)
                                                 It's good to see you finally joining me. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                     Gee, tough question - (drewk) - (5)
                                                         Ah, another "proof" of my point. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                             Your point is rather dull - (drewk) - (3)
                                                                 Re-read your posts. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                                                     No need - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                         Yes you do need to. - (Brandioch)
                                                 Fair. - (screamer) - (1)
                                                     What we clever animals are up to - (Ashton)
                                 Recall the full quote. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     I don't see the problem - (drewk) - (1)
                                         So why can't you answer my question? - (Brandioch)
         Having read for comprehension, with all previous judgments - (Ashton)
         a couple of thoughts - (boxley) - (1)
             Well, that's what you get for not doing a reality check. - (marlowe)
         But you can't. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             You even quoted it - (drewk)

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