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New They have to respect you before they can love you.
And they have to fear you before they can respect you.

A lot of people are like this, and this is the only way that works with them. Maybe this why the Old Testament God seems so heavyhanded sometimes.

If you've got an employer like that, always get things in writing. Like doctor's orders. Get it in writing, and signed. CYA, and be ready to fight in court. Let them know you're ready to fight in court. And if they call your bluff, well, don't have been bluffing. Get in touch with all the advocacy groups you can, and see if any will help foot the bill. Not all bleeding hearts are useless, just most of the noisier ones.
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Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
New Then they shall fear me!
What advocacy groups are there and how do I get in contact with them? I am not sure where to look. What kind are there? Any for computer workers, like Computer Geeks Anonymous who are abused by their employers?

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New Re: Then they shall fear me!
Not exactly what you want, but one place to start:

[link|http://www.programmersguild.org/american.htm|Programmer's Guild.]

Note the [link|http://www.programmersguild.org/Guild/howto.htm|"How to tell bad company"] link.
Alex

"Of course, you realize this means war." -B. Bunny
     All I wanted was a little respect - (nking) - (8)
         You have to command it - (tuberculosis) - (4)
             Why didn't they love me? - (nking) - (3)
                 They have to respect you before they can love you. - (marlowe) - (2)
                     Then they shall fear me! - (nking) - (1)
                         Re: Then they shall fear me! - (a6l6e6x)
         Have to know where to look - (mhuber) - (2)
             They didn't bend, they didn't care - (nking) - (1)
                 It ain't about caring, it's about money - (mhuber)

I was pretty stoked the day I learned how to properly pronounce "Worcestershire," because I don't have a lot going for me.
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