Re: Oped: Conservatism defined

Post #29,380 by wharris2 2/22/02 12:36:52 PM Reply	Re: Oped: Conservatism defined As the author himself notes, Conservatism doesn't say anything about what you are trying to conserve. While in theory American conservatives work to conserve freedom, liberty and justice, in practice they are more likely to be conserving posistions of power, privilage and wealth. And how does that differ from a typical "liberal"? Both sides of the idiological aisle have lots of moneygrubbing SOB's. Both sides have some people who really are true to their beliefs and aren't moneygrubbing SOB's. Where each demon is slain, more hate is raised, yet hate unchecked also multiplies. - L. E. Modesitt, from his Recluse series
Post #29,389 by JayMehaffey 2/22/02 1:06:25 PM Reply	How it differs And how does that differ from a typical "liberal" While in theory Libers work to increase freedom, liberty and justice, in practice they are more likely to be working to get their own posistions of power, privilage and wealth. Not to say I think Liberals and Conservatives are perfect mirrors. I think that, in broad generalities, more liberals are honestly trying to do what is right, while more conservatives are cynically or unthinkingly trying to maintain their priviliges. However, more liberals are blind to what the real consequences of their actions are, and are therefore more likely to mess things up. Jay
Post #29,392 by wharris2 2/22/02 1:14:27 PM Reply	Amazing truths I'm still blinking at your insights. Liberals (so-called) do tend to act on "good intentions" or at least what sounds like good intentions. "It's for the children!" (gag) Conservatives at least tend more to try to figure out what the results are. But as I've said before, "liberal" and "conservative" isn't a good description of the political spectrum. Classical liberalism isn't today's liberalism; classical conservatism isn't today's conservatism. Where each demon is slain, more hate is raised, yet hate unchecked also multiplies. - L. E. Modesitt, from his Recluse series
Post #29,395 by marlowe 2/22/02 1:26:43 PM Reply	The real diff between modern "liberals" and "conservatives" "Liberals" want to give us absolute freedom in some areas, and overweening government control or PC coercion in other areas. With the "conservatives" it's the other way around. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
Post #29,407 by inthane-chan 2/22/02 2:03:18 PM Reply	Exactly. "Conservatives", or at least the beast that passes for conservative in this country want to give us overweening government control or anti-PC coersion in some areas, and absolute freedom in other areas. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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