Thank you, God.

Post #29,374 by Brandioch 2/22/02 11:45:12 AM Reply	Thank you, God. My position as to what is Truth, on various and sundry topics, is very much a matter of public record. So, your opinion on a subject is "The Truth" about that subject. Hmmmmm, I do believe that is a functional definition of "God". Truth is that which is the case. No argument there. And 1 + 1 = 2. I didn't ask you to define "truth". I asked what the "Truth" is, accourding to you. As opposed to that which is not the case. Again, no argument. But you still haven't told me what the "Truth" is. You've just defined what "truth" is and what "truth" is not. But it's no good saying that, because some people will turn around and ask what "is the case" means. No. Just what the "Truth" is. Phrase it however you want to. Or what "is" means. It would seem to me that this is EXACTLY what you are doing right now. You are focusing on the definitions of the words rather than answering the question. But I expected such bullshit from you. In summary, Marlowe hasn't got a clue what "The Truth" is. He has his opinions and he supports those opinions by stating that they are "The Truth". Which is no support at all. Sorry, Marlowe, you lose.
Post #30,459 by Ric Locke 3/2/02 10:29:22 AM Reply	Marlowe is quoting: die Welt is alles was der Fall ist. Brandioch, it's you who's ducking and weaving. Wittgenstein's comment has a resonance in German that's hard to translate into English; Germans don't need Murphy, they have falls ist. Marlowe's version is about as good as any, and better than some, as translations go. Capitalizing "Truth" into existentialism serves no purpose bar providing you with a strawman to sneer at. Yes, truth is sometimes different at different times, because die Welt does change as time passes; entropy, if nothing else. As for Russian -- in point of actual fact, pravda does not mean "truth" as we use the word, to mean a point-to-point correspondence with the objective Universe. When a Russian wants to use that concept (not often) the word is instinye, as in ve istinye tak "You got that right, dude!" Pravda is more closely related to "approved", as in "the officially approved version". Your rants, and some of Ashton's, are more pravlino than anything else. Regards, Ric
Post #30,490 by Ashton 3/2/02 7:07:05 PM Reply	However the world changes, there are ever those who claim accessibility of ~an unvarying Truth (or via lots of other symbols) - and they speak with certainty or Certainty of that accomplishment. Such ones are - lawful prey. (Even when not overtly arrogant; certainly more fun.. when they are). I'll ask my friend about the nuances of pravda (think you're right on that one, from previous conversations). 'Istinye' - don't know nada. Now as to Wittgenstein - hey! a friend wrote his thesis on W. So you grok to fullness on W., do you? Recall his take on the maya ? ;-) Ashton Morphological Rants to Order

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