Post #292,717
9/11/07 2:42:37 PM
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jethro bodine was right! you can burn water
[link|http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RIRI600&show_article=1|http://www.breitbart...00&show_article=1] ohn Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.
The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.
Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.
The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said. thanx, bill Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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Post #292,718
9/11/07 2:46:42 PM
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Re: jethro bodine was right! you can burn water
and to think electrolysis has been known for a very long time
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Post #292,719
9/11/07 2:50:09 PM
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are you implying these inventors were brits :-)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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Post #292,721
9/11/07 3:46:15 PM
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to think electrolysis has been known for a very long time
You mean we can run our cars on facial hair? :-D
Smile,
Amy
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Post #292,723
9/11/07 4:28:57 PM
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To quote PB: "My Name is..." - Uh, no, I mean the other one.
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Post #292,743
9/11/07 10:46:08 PM
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OEPEC
Organization of EPilator Exporting Countries
/me ducks and runs for cover...
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Post #292,752
9/11/07 11:57:05 PM
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Are you afraid of getting waxed? :-)
Smile,
Amy
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Post #293,447
9/22/07 11:40:30 PM
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Been there, done that, didn't like it...
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
— George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
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Post #293,448
9/22/07 11:54:53 PM
9/22/07 11:55:42 PM
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You show a lot of pluck :-)
Smile,
Amy
Edited by imqwerky
Sept. 22, 2007, 11:55:42 PM EDT
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Post #292,730
9/11/07 7:21:55 PM
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I think the real question is
how much power goes into the radio transmitter, and how much do you get out from the combustion? Can you drive the transmitter from the energy from the combustion with energy to spare? How much energy to spare?
A related and also very important question is, are there any hazards from the EM frequency they use?
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Post #292,726
9/11/07 6:43:36 PM
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Gosh - big breakthrough eh?
Missing from this Excitement - though it's rather obvious, I thought:
1) What's the INPUT RF power ??
(and.. it's never 100% efficient to convert DC power to RF output levels - nor can the ionization process suggested.. achieve 100% efficiency)
-VS-
2) The OUTPUT gases' recombination [H + O reaction] power output ??
(Power = Energy/Time, so one can just compare KW-hours - no need for actual real-time Power measurement.)
TANSTAAFL
Maybe next we can do electric cars as panacea, too - but with the Numbers / skip the dream fluff.
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"Sir! same place you got the ship, Sir!!"
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Post #292,727
9/11/07 6:46:22 PM
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This again
This is going around AGAIN? I was hoping it was debunked the first time but I guess I hope for too much. The problem is this part. The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel. A large amount of electrical energy is used to electrolyze water. That's not fuel, it's a naff form of energy conversion. Better off using old fashioned electrolysis. What we really have is a form of electrolysis without electrodes. Might work as part of a treatment for cancer. Neat. Don't these journalists know anyone who stayed awake during chemistry classes? Matthew Greet
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