On global warming

Post #2,925 by drewk 7/27/01 9:07:33 AM Reply	On global warming "The vast majority of scientists in the world believe that global warming is a real and imminent threat." The oft-referenced letter signed by 1600 U.N. scientists "confirming" global warming? Did you know the chairman of the committee that drafted it has disavowed the executive summary that the U.N. put out? He said the findings showed the opposite. In fact, he is one of 17,000 scientists who signed the letter saying that there is no compelling evidence. Not that the 1600 may not be the ones who are right, but if we're going to do "argument from authority" we should at least make sure the "authority" we quote said what we think he did. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #2,928 by SpiceWare 7/27/01 9:19:38 AM Reply	I'd read that too but didn't think about it when I posted yesterday. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #2,930 by drewk 7/27/01 9:38:34 AM Reply	I'm looking for a reference I got the info from a John Stossel special "Tampering With Nature." I've got the PDF's of the actual U.N. report and I'm trying to find the relevant cites. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #2,931 by drewk 7/27/01 9:48:55 AM Reply	Here's a good quote from the report Remember, this is the very [link\|http://www.ipcc.ch/\|U.N. group report] that is constantly referenced by global-warming activists. The basic understanding of the energy balance of the Earth system means that quite simple models can provide a broad quantitative estimate of some globally averaged variables, but more accurate estimates of feedbacks and of regional detail can only come from more elaborate climate models. The complexity of the processes in the climate system prevents the use of extrapolation of past trends or statistical and other purely empirical techniques for projections. Call me a skeptic, but that doesn't sound to me like a ringing pronouncement that global warming has been confirmed. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #2,940 by Steve Lowe 7/27/01 11:16:41 AM Reply	There's More Richard Lindzen, a meteorology professor at MIT, was part of the 11 member team that prepared a report comissioned by the NAS on climate change. See here: [link\|http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95000606\|http://opinionjourn...?id=95000606] Last week the National Academy of Sciences released a report on climate change, prepared in response to a request from the White House, that was depicted in the press as an implicit endorsement of the Kyoto Protocol. CNN's Michelle Mitchell was typical of the coverage when she declared that the report represented "a unanimous decision that global warming is real, is getting worse, and is due to man. There is no wiggle room." As one of 11 scientists who prepared the report, I can state that this is simply untrue. For starters, the NAS never asks that all participants agree to all elements of a report, but rather that the report represent the span of views. This the full report did, making clear that there is no consensus, unanimous or otherwise, about long-term climate trends and what causes them. ----- Steve

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