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New Thanks - saw your note in time
...to turn on PBS and catch the show. Depressing, but that's where we are.

When I think about endgames, the visual image of the helicopters on the roof of the embassy in Saigon come to mind. The end in Iraq will not be as pleasant as that. We have done so much damage, and infuriated so many people, that they intend to make it hard for us to leave. They'll be shooting at us all the way to the airport.

One of the real problems is that we really don't want to leave Iraq. Unlike Vietnam, we have built many permanent bases, spent untold millions/billions on a new US Embassy, acquired (commandeered) that special 4 square mile piece of ground known as the Green Zone, and we really don't want to give it up. We have very mixed feelings about leaving, because who knows when we'll get another shot (pun) at all all that precious oil?

We won't be seeing an endgame for many years, if Korea is an example, as Bush recently referred.

Thanks again for the heads-up.
New It might come sooner than you think
I read an article recently which talked about the financial crunch the US military is facing due to the rising price of oil. That fact alone could force the issue sooner than some might expect....
New Shiny joy on the topic from Kunstler
[link|http://kunstler.com/mags_diary21.html|http://kunstler.com/mags_diary21.html]
If we don't maintain a military presence in Iraq, it is perfectly plain what will happen: Iran will instantly gain control of the southern Iraq oil fields. Iraq doesn't have an army anymore. It is incapable of preventing Iran from acquiring control of its territory. From that vantage, Iran would also effectively threaten the sovereign existence of Kuwait. Then there is the question of how much instability Iran could generate next door in the Shia-dominated Persian Gulf shoreline region of Saudi Arabia, where most of that nation's oil lies. (Meanwhile, there will be plenty more Iran-inspired mayhem in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.)


And for glorious specifics on how that might happen, check out this [link|http://kunstler.com/Grunt_Baghdad%20letter.html|letter from Baghdad]:
This place could have streets paved in gold...and they know it. But they won't put down their self centered bickering long enough to let it happen. And then there's the "Frankenstein Factor" which has turned loose god knows how many guys on the landscape who are simply whacked out on the violence and listen to no leader. I've taken to describing it as being hooked on "War Crack." Of course certain facets of the cultural lore make for ready made enablers and keep the cycle going indefinitely.

Then there's the fuel shortages, gas lines, rival gangs taking over the few working petrol stations, black market fuelers selling watered down gas from milk jugs at 5 times the going price, busted water mains that don't get fixed, troops, checkpoints and imposter police everywhere. Hatfield vs. McCoy vendettas in full swing with no end in sight, secret hit squads from Iran running guns, money and training to everyone, neighborhood militias cleansing door to door, power lines torn down and looted for the copper, pipelines torched daily, snipers stalking the rooftops who apparently just like to shoot people at random anymore and anyone with a brain and some money beating feet just as fast as they can...if they can.
Cheerio.
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New It follows, then - conclusively:
The PNAC was spawned by a Grand Ayatollah -
Nixon begat Rumsfeld who begat Cheney -

The pair, in remora mode after insensitivity training - fastened upon the Young, Saved, Malleable complementary-pair, \ufffdShrub/Rice and -

Now all events fall perfectly into place.
(Even that Bitch, logic - is satisfied with the causality thing.)






(I shall accept the Pulitzer, unless the History Nobel is offered first)
One must not hide one's light under a Bush-el, when one is between Iraq and a hard place.


\ufffd [dual-use symbol]
Simply, visualize both, together: in burkhas
Now translate the daily WH 'situation bafflegab' since Day1 ... into its native Arabic.
Notice how apparent [English] contradictions merge into a mellifluous camel-inflected Wholeness of Purpose.

See? (a bit slow arentcha?)
     'Endgame' tonight on Frontline -- a preview - (Ashton) - (6)
         Excellent show. Thanks for the pointer. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Looked accurate - hence the gloom - (Ashton)
         Thanks - saw your note in time - (dmcarls) - (3)
             It might come sooner than you think - (jake123)
             Shiny joy on the topic from Kunstler - (drewk) - (1)
                 It follows, then - conclusively: - (Ashton)

Specifically, why is he still allowed to make them?
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