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New Black holes (as commonly understood) may not exist.
[link|http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12089-do-black-holes-really-exist.html|New Scientist]:

Black holes might not exist \ufffd or at least not as scientists have imagined, cloaked by an impenetrable "event horizon". A controversial new calculation could abolish the horizon, and so solve a troubling paradox in physics.

The event horizon is supposed to mark a boundary beyond which nothing can escape a black hole's gravity. According to the general theory of relativity, even light is trapped inside the horizon, and no information about what fell into the hole can ever escape. Information seems to have fallen out of the universe.

That contradicts the equations of quantum mechanics, which always preserve information. How to resolve this conflict?

One possibility researchers have proposed in the past is that the information does leak back out again slowly. It may be encoded in a hypothetical flow of particles called Hawking radiation, which is thought to result from the black holes' event horizons messing with the quantum froth that is ever-present in space.

But other researchers argue the information may never have been cut off in the first place. Tanmay Vachaspati and his colleagues at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, US, have tried to calculate what happens as a black hole is forming. Using an unusual mathematical approach called the functional Schrodinger equation, they follow a sphere of stuff as it collapses inwards, and predict what a distant observer would see.

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Journal reference: Physical Review D (In press)


Neat. That pesky Information stuff keeps getting in the way!

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who thinks these folks have a tough row to hoe to demonstrate they're right.)
New A functional Schrodinger equation?
Isn't that the one that produces both correct and incorrect results at the same time?

Is today April 1st?
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New I've never heard the term before, either.
But it seems to describe something with some substance behind it.

It seems to be a way of melding gravity and Schrodinger's equation.

E.g. [link|http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0264-9381/9/S/008|C Kiefer 1992 Class. Quantum Grav. 9 S147-S156].

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who has forgotten too much about QM to have a sensible opinion on the work.)
New Only if you look at it.
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New ~~ "To the extent that mathematics reflects Reality -
it is not precise; to the extent it is precise ... etc."

Good luck to wannabe Ramanujan II, at play in the fields of the Lured.

curl grad V = 0 [??]

New We (as commonly understood) may not exist.
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Kip Hawley is still an idiot.

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New "All around me is nothing but fakes..."
"Come with me on the biggest fake of all"

The context of where I got that from is quite different from this discussion, but it otherwise seemed appropriate. Ten points if you can identify where I got it from... :-)

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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     Black holes (as commonly understood) may not exist. - (Another Scott) - (6)
         A functional Schrodinger equation? - (Yendor) - (2)
             I've never heard the term before, either. - (Another Scott)
             Only if you look at it. -NT - (folkert)
         ~~ "To the extent that mathematics reflects Reality - - (Ashton)
         We (as commonly understood) may not exist. -NT - (drewk) - (1)
             "All around me is nothing but fakes..." - (static)

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