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New Wouldn't work
If it where Fatah that might have a chance of working, but not Hamas. Egypt is working hard to suppress it's own Muslim political parties. It is not going to work with a even more radical one. What would happen is that Egypt would roll over and occupy the strip itself.

It would be interesting to see how the Palestinians react to oppressed by an anti-Muslim Arab power though.

Jay
New ed zachary
When the egyptians level the place flat the world wont give a rats ass.
thanx,
bill
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep

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New I dunno.
According to [link|http://www.pbs.org/weta/crossroads/about/show_jihad.html|Jihad], bin Laden and cohorts (in their own words) have wanted to start a regional war from China to Egypt and beyond in preparation for restoration of the Caliphate. It's hard not to view the events in Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, etc., etc., as fitting into this plan. I don't know a lot about the ideology behind Hamas, but they certainly seem much closer to the Muslim Brotherhood and similar groups than to secular nationalist groups.

It's very hard for me to imagine Egypt considering rolling into Gaza without thinking about the consequences for feeding further internal unrest. Since Egypt has been part of the "near enemy" since Nasser's days, I'm sure Osama and Ayman would like nothing better than another pretext to incite attacks against Egypt. Seeing that, I don't think Egypt's government would have any interest in going into Gaza.

I suspect that most outsiders will keep a hands-off approach to Gaza until they feel they have no other choice. At that point, all bets are off. :-( I expect that Gaza will be fairly quiet soon (Hamas will want to consolidate their gains; Fatah will be too weak to respond), but the masses of people there will continue to suffer (partly because the West will have even more reason to refuse to support them). I expect the West Bank will be fairly quiet too, and Fatah will feel great pressure to prove to the population that it can govern (while cracking down on Hamas there).

Just my $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
New have you seen any restive outcry over hamas killing fatah?
When it comes to Arab on Arab killing Iraq has pretty much dimmed interest. If egypt stepped in no one would care much and gaza has been an infested sore on their flanks as well. The sinai bombings were masterminded in gaza.
thanx,
bill
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep

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New It only takes a few thousand to make a difference.
Remember flatboy2016's [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=116266|.sig].

Al Qaeda's audience isn't the masses: it's the unemployed, disaffected, idealistic young man who wants to throw his heart (and life) into a cause bigger than himself. [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb|Sayyid Qutb]'s ideas already have resonance with such people. If Egypt invaded Gaza to crush Hamas, you can bet that Osama and his acolytes would point to Egypt and say:

You see! This is proof that the Egyptians are [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyyah|Jahiliyyah] and they are attacking the true Muslim's! [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir|Takfir!]. We must protect the [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummah|Ummah]! It's your duty as a Muslim to go to Gaza or Egypt to fight them!


I'm sure that more than a few would be susceptible to such exhortations.

If Egypt cracks down, they're damned by the press, in global public opinion, and feed the islamist arguments. If they don't crack down, they look weak and make it easier for those who intend to overthrow them by force.

In short, I don't think Egypt would move into Gaza unless they felt they had no other choice. If it gets that bad, all bets are off.

have you seen any restive outcry over hamas killing fatah?


Yes, in the reports I've heard on NPR. Remember the [link|http://english.people.com.cn/200706/13/eng20070613_383893.html|demonstration] a day or so ago of Palestinians demanding that the fighting stop? In other stories, many of the Hamas members/supporters were saying that the Fatah people were [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir|Kafir] - they weren't "true" Muslims. It's straight out of Qutb - I don't think most Gazans look forward to an islamist government and living under Sharia.

An unfettered Hamas government in Gaza could could cause lots of mischief in Egypt and other neighboring states.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Palestinian government collapses - (JayMehaffey) - (7)
         maybe not - (boxley) - (6)
             A few problems with that. - (static)
             Wouldn't work - (JayMehaffey) - (4)
                 ed zachary - (boxley) - (3)
                     I dunno. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         have you seen any restive outcry over hamas killing fatah? - (boxley) - (1)
                             It only takes a few thousand to make a difference. - (Another Scott)

Sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up.
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