On a bike, if you're leaning you're steering

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Post #285,483 by drewk 5/27/07 9:55:24 AM Reply	On a bike, if you're leaning you're steering === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #285,506 by CRConrad 5/27/07 1:20:03 PM Reply	Not if you counter by actually steering the other way.
Post #285,578 by drewk 5/28/07 12:45:06 PM Reply	Ever ridden a bike? It's called "counter steering". If you want to turn left, you steer to the right, which will lean the bike over to the left. I don't care where the wheels are pointing, a bike will go in the direction it's leaning. If you doubt this, picture the contact points of the tires and the location of the center of mass. If the center of mass is to the left of the contact points, that's where the bike will go. === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]

Hayabusa motored VW Golf... wow. - (folkert) - (21) - May 16, 2007, 04:37:38 PM EDT

Pretty darned zippy! -NT - (bepatient) - May 16, 2007, 09:17:30 PM EDT

reminds me of legend racing - (boxley) - May 16, 2007, 09:41:53 PM EDT

Dodge Tomahawk: Viper V-10 engined Motorcycle. 368 kB. - (Another Scott) - (18) - May 26, 2007, 10:52:26 PM EDT

How would it have torque steer? - (pwhysall) - (17) - May 27, 2007, 02:29:32 AM EDT

Monster-motored personal vehicles are silly. - (Another Scott) - (16) - May 27, 2007, 07:33:39 AM EDT

Nope - (drewk) - (15) - May 27, 2007, 09:18:11 AM EDT

"Torque lean", "Counter-torque lean", something like that? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - May 27, 2007, 09:42:48 AM EDT

On a bike, if you're leaning you're steering -NT - (drewk) - (2) - May 27, 2007, 09:55:24 AM EDT

Not if you counter by actually *steering* the other way. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 01:20:03 PM EDT

Ever ridden a bike? - (drewk) - May 28, 2007, 12:45:06 PM EDT

That's every BMW ever, then. - (pwhysall) - (10) - May 27, 2007, 10:45:46 AM EDT

Moto Guzzi, Gold Wing, (old) Indian, that big new Triumph... -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 27, 2007, 01:19:09 PM EDT

How does that work, then? - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 27, 2007, 03:32:12 PM EDT

No; just that like BMWs, they have longitudinal crankshafts - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 27, 2007, 07:25:38 PM EDT

gotcha, thanks - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 28, 2007, 03:26:08 AM EDT

Yeah, of course; they should never have started using it. -NT - (CRConrad) - May 28, 2007, 04:48:29 AM EDT

The driveshaft on the K100 is more than twice as long - (drewk) - (4) - May 28, 2007, 12:42:04 PM EDT

What would the LENGTH of the shaft have to do with anything? - (CRConrad) - (3) - May 28, 2007, 04:34:49 PM EDT

Now exactly where is this conversation headed? -NT - (bepatient) - May 28, 2007, 05:30:26 PM EDT

Yes, I'd guess more than twice the mass -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 28, 2007, 08:55:39 PM EDT

Not particularly. - (folkert) - May 28, 2007, 10:16:23 PM EDT

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