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New Marc Herold's numbers are wrong
He got the numbers by adding up the numbers listed in the newspapers, including Taliban press releases, multiple reports of the same event, and so on. The 3800 dead figure is just plain wrong.

The Associated Press reports that the number of casualties was between 500 and 600, which are one-eighth to one-sixth of Herold's numbers. Even Human Rights Watch thinks that the actual number of casualties was probably between 1000 and 1300, about a quarter or a third of the Herold's number. Given that HRW in turn has an institutional bias to inflate the numbers, I'd say their numbers represent a solid upper bound on the number of civilian casualties in the Afghan War.

I'm dubious that the casualty totals have much to do with whether or not one supports or opposes the Afghan War, but we might as well use the correct numbers while descending into flames. :)
New What are Taliban numbers?
A professor culls news reports and other odd bits of information and calls it "research"? He's academically dishonest at the least.

How about some statistics on how many people the Taliban have killed after gaining power? If we had yearly statistics on that, we could project how many they were likely to kill in the future. I'll bet their henchmen, Al Qaeda, didn't keep records.
Gerard Allwein
New I suspect
that during the active bombardment, we disrupted more executions than we killed civilians.

From the reports that came out when the Taliban was a matter of sovereignty and only civil rights freaks and feminists thought they were a problem, I have little doubt that at the end of 2002, more Afghans will be alive than would have been without the war.

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                                             save it till yer 21 -NT - (boxley)
                             Marc Herold's numbers are wrong - (neelk) - (2)
                                 What are Taliban numbers? - (gtall) - (1)
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