You are a piece of work

I clearly referred to his lying about sex with Monica which is how most people remember the impeachment.

Lets see Studds had consensual sex with a page, not a crime which is what we were talking about. You didn't mention that Crane a repo was censured as part of the same '83 page scandal.

Sutton was S Dakota State Senator who was accused but not charged in a situation where an accusation usually is good enough to get a charge. Who knows, he could guilty.

Jim McGreevey was having an affair with an employee, an ethical violation, not a crime. AFAICS his crimes related to bribes, but NJ is a very corrupt state as you say.

Frank might have abetted Gobie in his prostitution ring but he wasn't a sexual predator.

Kennedy's crime was 38 years ago, it was disgusting the way he left the accident, but it is not what we are talking.

The repo crimes you didn't mention:

[link|http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/paradise.asp|My favorite repo scandal] {Sorry I posted the wrong link in here, I changed it from this link: [link|http://tpmmuckraker.com/delay.php|http://tpmmuckraker.com/delay.php] to the one above.}

[link|http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm|Box's favorite Paper]

[link|http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0622041ryans1.html|Not a true sex crime]

Repos have dems beat when it comes to true sex crimes to anyone paying attention. Even you should be able to see that with your head that far up your ass.

Post #285,038 by Seamus 5/21/07 6:02:24 PM Reply	You are a piece of work You totally missed the point of the message, but you usually do. The AG investigations is about attempting to bring an out of control department back under control. The impeachment was about bringing down a president because of radical social conservatives didn't like his politics. If the impeachment was truly about committing sexual crimes, the social conservatives would have pushed for all sexual crimes in DC to be investigated. They didn't. Dobson even is supporting Gringrich, so I guess he doesn't really care family values. Big fucking difference, asshole. Seamus
Post #285,045 by bepatient 5/21/07 7:02:39 PM Reply	I don't give a rat's ass what your point was...when you show clear prejudice in your message by making accusations with zero support. And I seem to remember a different set of charges than sex crimes brought against the President. Getting a BJ isn't a crime. Noone said it was. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,055 by Seamus 5/21/07 8:18:39 PM 5/21/07 8:36:38 PM Reply	What prejudice? I clearly referred to his lying about sex with Monica which is how most people remember the impeachment. Lets see Studds had consensual sex with a page, not a crime which is what we were talking about. You didn't mention that Crane a repo was censured as part of the same '83 page scandal. Sutton was S Dakota State Senator who was accused but not charged in a situation where an accusation usually is good enough to get a charge. Who knows, he could guilty. Jim McGreevey was having an affair with an employee, an ethical violation, not a crime. AFAICS his crimes related to bribes, but NJ is a very corrupt state as you say. Frank might have abetted Gobie in his prostitution ring but he wasn't a sexual predator. Kennedy's crime was 38 years ago, it was disgusting the way he left the accident, but it is not what we are talking. The repo crimes you didn't mention: [link\|http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/paradise.asp\|My favorite repo scandal] {Sorry I posted the wrong link in here, I changed it from this link: [link\|http://tpmmuckraker.com/delay.php\|http://tpmmuckraker.com/delay.php] to the one above.} [link\|http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm\|Box's favorite Paper] [link\|http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0622041ryans1.html\|Not a true sex crime] Repos have dems beat when it comes to true sex crimes to anyone paying attention. Even you should be able to see that with your head that far up your ass. Seamus Edited by Seamus May 21, 2007, 08:36:38 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #285,073 by bepatient 5/21/07 10:17:22 PM Reply	Funny but your "favorite" doesn't qualify...unless of course you are saying that they were over there actually doing the forcing. Not supporting legislation =/ the charges lodged. Figured you'd pull the tortured Jeri Ryan thing...so in our math now I'd say we are pretty even..and if we both go searching some more I'd say we'd stay pretty even. As I said on the other side...this crap is non-partisan. Your prejudice is that you continually insist that the Rep side is guilty of this, that or the other moreso than the other...without substance and without statistical backing. Maybe I should just give up and always support the party of honesty and virtue 100% of the time. Sigh. There isn't one. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,076 by boxley 5/21/07 10:20:05 PM Reply	I thought Pelosi just exempted them again from the min wage isnt she a democraat? thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #285,088 by Seamus 5/21/07 11:24:16 PM Reply	Nothing funny about it When it comes to plain sex scandals, the numbers are pretty much even. But my point is about sex crimes, and that is where more repos stand out but that doesn't mean the dems are virtuous. The Ms article is about what type behavior that some republicans don't have a problem supporting. Seamus
Post #285,083 by bepatient 5/21/07 10:43:02 PM Reply	Here. [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/congress.htm\|http://www.washingto...nton/congress.htm] Pretty much a mixed bag...again with the math not necessarily in favor of your predisposition. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,089 by Seamus 5/21/07 11:39:26 PM Reply	Try this instead [link\|http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/17/1438/37522\|not so much a mixed bag] Seamus
Post #285,093 by bepatient 5/22/07 12:11:48 AM Reply	I'm guessing you didn't read the list provided There were a couple of folks in there soliciting sex from minors and at min accused of rape. So add one to your side. I'm guessing, unlike some of the Dems, that this guy won't get re-elected. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,188 by Seamus 5/22/07 8:33:24 PM Reply	No I read it (new thread) Created as new thread #285187 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=285187\|No I read it] Seamus
Post #285,048 by boxley 5/21/07 7:07:48 PM Reply	The AG investigations is about bringing down a president because of radical socialists who didn't like his politics. You just used too many words to make your point. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #285,057 by Seamus 5/21/07 8:22:11 PM Reply	Asking the AG to leave politics out of the actual criminal prosecutions and not have it affect the way election laws are investigated means you are a socialist? Get real. Seamus
Post #285,103 by CRConrad 5/22/07 3:52:15 AM Reply	OK, this proves it. Get help, BOx; you are officially insane
Post #285,107 by boxley 5/22/07 6:59:19 AM Reply	yabbut at least I aint ugly :-) Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
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Post #285,114 by CRConrad 5/22/07 8:10:33 AM Reply	Ah. Isn't it amazing, how often the truth turns out to be... ...rather subjective? :-) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian "Just collected his wedding photos from the photographer" Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #285,116 by boxley 5/22/07 8:21:26 AM Reply	:-) Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #285,117 by warmachine 5/22/07 8:41:05 AM Reply	There are radical socialists in the US? Matthew Greet Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? - Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
Post #285,119 by CRConrad 5/22/07 9:26:57 AM Reply	Could be. But if so, they can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand, and are all buried deep in the bowels of Ft Leavenworth and such places. The ones that couldn't be shipped to Gitmo, you see. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #285,122 by boxley 5/22/07 9:31:48 AM Reply	dont diss mickey Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #285,124 by mmoffitt 5/22/07 9:40:45 AM Reply	Hey! I'm still here. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #285,133 by bepatient 5/22/07 10:33:08 AM Reply	Thought this thread might scare you up :-) Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,134 by CRConrad 5/22/07 10:55:42 AM Reply	Yeah, but you're not all that radical. 'Coz if you were, you'd be in Leavenworth. (Or Gitmo, or...) See? Q. E. F. D! [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #285,147 by mmoffitt 5/22/07 1:59:20 PM Reply	Depends on your frickin' standards. By Hoosier standards, I'm a Marx brother (Karl, not those other guys). bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell

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