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Post #284,568
by Another Scott
5/13/07 5:59:03 PM
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New Better link.
[link|http://www.aap.org/nach/Halliday%20presentation.pdf|Overview of the Indian Health Service]. It doesn't mention fluoride.

I don't doubt that health care, including dental care, among Native Americans is poor and substandard. It's a crime that they've been treated so badly by the USA for so long.

The closest article that I've been able to find that talks about fluoridation issues on Indian reservations is [link|http://adr.iadrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/11/2/210|this] 7 page .pdf. It compares Navajo and Lakota experiences with Baltimore and San Antonio. Unfortunately, it doesn't come to any clear conclusions (at least none that jump out at me quickly) but does discuss many factors that make comparisons difficult.

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who realizes that this should have been branched to Epi and Health quite a while ago...)
Post #284,574
by boxley
5/13/07 6:36:52 PM
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New point==missed
the older non floride consuming folks have decent teeth, the young kids whose diet is much whitified have rotten teeth. If floride was so good, the teeth should match folks in other floridated white areas, it doesnt. So floride has done no appreciable good in these areas and exposes a risk of death and illness. That is the point Im looking at.
thanx,
bill
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     Kansas - (imric) - (38) - May 12, 2007, 10:23:05 PM EDT
         :-D -NT - (Another Scott) - May 12, 2007, 10:25:07 PM EDT
         Reminds me of when fluoridation of water first came out. - (a6l6e6x) - (23) - May 12, 2007, 11:02:49 PM EDT
             The Luddites were correct - (bepatient) - (22) - May 12, 2007, 11:19:23 PM EDT
                 So you vetted all 1,080,000 hits --> into one sound byte? - (Ashton) - (21) - May 13, 2007, 05:45:23 AM EDT
                     tell it to my friend dominic - (boxley) - (18) - May 13, 2007, 09:22:47 AM EDT
                         Accidents happen. :-( - (Another Scott) - (13) - May 13, 2007, 09:34:49 AM EDT
                             brushing you teeth with salt or having it prescribed is one - (boxley) - (12) - May 13, 2007, 11:20:26 AM EDT
                                 Do you have issues with all Public Health Initiatives - (Seamus) - (11) - May 13, 2007, 12:30:52 PM EDT
                                     where a public issue of forcing public intake - (boxley) - May 13, 2007, 04:25:04 PM EDT
                                     This one is simple - (bepatient) - (9) - May 13, 2007, 04:27:44 PM EDT
                                         That's a pretty strong statement. - (Another Scott) - (8) - May 13, 2007, 05:01:15 PM EDT
                                             sure no prob - (boxley) - (2) - May 13, 2007, 05:36:12 PM EDT
                                                 Better link. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 13, 2007, 05:59:03 PM EDT
                                                     point==missed - (boxley) - May 13, 2007, 06:36:52 PM EDT
                                             Re: That's a pretty strong statement. - (bepatient) - (4) - May 13, 2007, 06:10:17 PM EDT
                                                 like this quote (jump to e&h) (new thread) - (boxley) - May 13, 2007, 06:43:15 PM EDT
                                                 I think the ADA pdf rebuts that very, very well. YMMV. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 13, 2007, 07:43:06 PM EDT
                                                     who paid for that pdf and put it before them to endorse? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - May 14, 2007, 09:41:51 AM EDT
                                                         Just attribute all uncomfortable conclusions to malice. - (Ashton) - May 14, 2007, 05:21:51 PM EDT
                         Well, tell it to my son. - (a6l6e6x) - May 13, 2007, 10:26:24 AM EDT
                         And what do you do about the black helicopters-tinfoil hats? -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 18, 2007, 06:56:17 AM EDT
                             ? you are comparing fact with theory - (boxley) - (1) - May 20, 2007, 11:25:14 PM EDT
                                 Hardly - (Ashton) - May 21, 2007, 06:08:15 AM EDT
                     I'm good, what can I say. - (bepatient) - (1) - May 13, 2007, 02:00:48 PM EDT
                         Do you have a link? - (Seamus) - May 13, 2007, 05:00:29 PM EDT
         Nah. - (ubernostrum) - (12) - May 13, 2007, 07:51:16 PM EDT
             Well, as a parent of a child with autism - (jake123) - (11) - May 14, 2007, 04:00:17 AM EDT
                 Agree entirely with your theses - (Ashton) - (6) - May 14, 2007, 05:32:07 PM EDT
                     I know I shouldn't, but... - (ubernostrum) - (5) - May 15, 2007, 07:21:28 AM EDT
                         Thus: the Gaussian's base is broad - (Ashton) - May 16, 2007, 10:57:24 PM EDT
                         Asperger is not about attention deficits - (Seamus) - (3) - May 21, 2007, 08:14:08 AM EDT
                             And probably quite a number of kids with "ADD"... - (ubernostrum) - (2) - May 22, 2007, 11:32:52 AM EDT
                                 The point I was trying to make was that I don't think - (Seamus) - (1) - May 26, 2007, 09:15:26 AM EDT
                                     I haven't read that post, just the subject line - (drewk) - May 26, 2007, 10:25:07 AM EDT
                 Be careful with those stats - (ubernostrum) - (3) - May 15, 2007, 07:27:50 AM EDT
                     Cecil weighs in. - (Another Scott) - (2) - June 10, 2007, 11:52:51 PM EDT
                         Intersting - (jake123) - (1) - June 11, 2007, 03:53:44 AM EDT
                             I can't explain what you experienced. - (Another Scott) - June 11, 2007, 05:00:19 PM EDT

Rather in the way of gilding the lily, and not to be encouraged.
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