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New Could think of no reply which wouldn't disappoint
-- when you're going-sdrawkcab <-- from a cheap modrin melodrama, made by MBAs purely for advertising $$ ... any pretense of 'art' being way down the list. And relating that to 'Rome'.

As mentioned in thread, there're several hundred hours of reading to be grokked - recalling at the outset that: C\ufffdsar was an honorary title.. and their characters varied from.. worse than Cheney + neoconmen, upwards to the memorable ones who attempted to be real Mensch material (via whatever personal vision of achievable 'Goodness'.)

I know of no way to condense the History of Rome into a Readers Disgust-level quickie.. y'know? As I don't consider self even a decent 'amateur historian', I'm also at a loss to recommend a particular First Primer on Rome -- kinda depends upon how *you* tend to learn such tableaux..

Lastly, I'd think you're at a great disadvantage in assessing confidently - the scurrilous nature of those obsessed with Power (political, financial, social whatever) of today's lot - without a sense of this lengthy history. Or, to tie Rome + other literature:

Want to comprehend a Cheney, or a dry-drunk wastrel like Shrub?
Think: Cheney as Iago ('Otello the Moor') a whisperin grandiose fantasies into a vain dullard's ear.
Shrub as Caligula (the Guccione-porn version or.. other)

ie. Modern and historical bastards behave like the archetypes (whether ignorant of them or not: the worst ones are the ones who Know what motherfuckers They Are, of course.. safe to say that neither Cheney nor Shrub have a clue. We call that, 'denial'.)

Ask local librarian; they Love to be asked to 'tailor' a huge selection to a particular query; they've invested years of study to that end (and you'll know much more about the folks around you, when you've discovered a bit about Rome and its demise, I wot.)


And.. it's never Too-Late for this.

New You might try Colleen McCullough
These books to start:

[link|http://www.amazon.com/First-Man-Rome-Masters/dp/0099462486/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1260530-7808047?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178799290&sr=1-1|http://www.amazon.co...1178799290&sr=1-1]

or

[link|http://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Masters-Rome-Colleen-McCullough/dp/0099460432/ref=pd_bbs_3/002-1260530-7808047?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178799290&sr=1-3|http://www.amazon.co...1178799290&sr=1-3]

I read First Man when it came out and I would recommend it.
Seamus
New Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire is the answer
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New Sorry but.. Never! is there "The Answer\ufffd"

     Question for Ashton and other Literary Buffs - (Nightowl) - (24)
         rome had many civil wars, Tiberious was the cesear then -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             Re: rome had many civil wars, Tiberious was the cesear then - (Nightowl)
         *fume* - (pwhysall) - (5)
             Ah, just a typo, thanks Peter. I corrected it. :) - (Nightowl)
             SHAKSPEER - (cwbrenn) - (3)
                 The Shak has no peers. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                     Isn't Shak 3 coming out later this month? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         naw they went out in the first round -NT - (boxley)
         What's so hard about Wikipedia, "Julius_Caesar", Enter? - (CRConrad) - (15)
             dunno about that wikipedia, conservapedia maybe - (boxley) - (2)
                 Do you have any issues with the Wikipedia article? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     chain==yanked (both ways) -NT - (boxley)
             I searched first... - (Nightowl) - (11)
                 Re: I searched first... - (pwhysall)
                 Could think of no reply which wouldn't disappoint - (Ashton) - (3)
                     You might try Colleen McCullough - (Seamus)
                     Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire is the answer -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         Sorry but.. Never! is there "The Answer\ufffd" -NT - (Ashton)
                 Re: "Besides, I asked ASHTON. ;)" - (CRConrad) - (5)
                     I see you continue to be a thoroughly pleasant human being. -NT - (cwbrenn) - (4)
                         Yup. And you? - (CRConrad) - (3)
                             Not very, I guess. - (cwbrenn) - (2)
                                 Huh? What was so particularly "vehement" about that? - (CRConrad)
                                 'Vehemence' ... has a certain lilt - (Ashton)

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