Yes, I'd seen the Geffen quote before...simply never discussed in a thread to now..when someone was asking about reasons to dislike Hillary in the race.

Since she cannot run against Bush, I find it laughable that everyone seems drawn to bringing him into this discussion...and doing so with the "well Shrub lies too".

Thats hardly the point...unless, of course, the Dems are just as happy to place a candidate equally challenged by the "Truth" into the White House (again).