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New It shouldn't matter who says what.
The question is, is something true or not and does it matter?

Use your brain to sort thing out.

You want a woman Senator for president? How about Senator Susan Collins of Maine? There's someone who puts country before party.
Alex

When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
New No it shouldn't matter
But, calling her a skank implies a gut level reaction that goes beyond what she is saying. Criticize her for failings as a politician, there certainly is a lot to criticize.
Seamus
New not at all, here is the definition
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thanx,
bill
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New By that definition almost all of the politicians are skanks
So it becomes rather meaningless. I personally don't like her, but what puts her on the same scale as Shrub?

That previous post was short of specifics, what makes her stand out from the normal fuckwitted behavior of other politicians?
Seamus
New I like this quote
"The Clintons have the largest collection of affidavits and letters attesting to alleged non-events to be found in contemporary politics."
how many other candidates can be tagged with un-indicted co-conspirator?
turning the cradle of serbian orthodoxy into a muslim state which the russians are still highly pissed about.
The constant non stop illegal fundraising in which she is being sued yet again by someone whose pocket she has picked and then turned on. From Rosen to Geffen to the chinese.
blech, its lunch and I havnt eaten.
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New Alot of the animosity comes from Clintons being as sucessful
as they were and a lot of it is deserved. What makes her a skank but not Delay nor Gringrich?
Seamus
Expand Edited by Seamus May 4, 2007, 12:50:46 PM EDT
New what lttle non entities did they crush?
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New Delay and Blankenship Gringrich and his ex-wives
By your definition all 3 are skanks, yet only Hillary deserves your wrath? All 3 should deserve your wrath, there is nothing that should make Hillary stand apart from Delay, Gringrich and others. They all should make the grade as skanks, but you save that label for Hillary. She seem obsessed with her.
Seamus
New blankenship is not a little people and an exwife
getting fucked appears to be a rebublican standard. By little I mean employees of hotels, waitress getting stiffed on the bill. Real little people.

Now tell me why she is better presidential material than anyone else. Any of the Democrats and almost all of the republicans are better choices yet you are championing her cause?

Does the skank label fit? In my mind yes. In your mind "Savior of free world"

Seems like a deadlock. I just hope she is not the candidate so I wont have to vote against her. I would rather vote for someone this go round.
thanx,
bill
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New I am not championing her by any means
I am just wondering what sets her apart from the others in your eyes and now I think I understand. I find them all distasteful. How her treatment of the real little people compares to other politicians, I can not say. If she is the demo candidate, I will vote for Nader.

Seamus
New And that makes YOU, too, a right-wing-nut.
It was fuckwits voting for Nader that put Shrub in the Oval Office in the fucking first place.

Whoever isn't against him is for him.


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New I said it tongue in cheek and I should have indicated that
Having said it wasn't a comment on Hillary or 2008 repo candidate let alone Hillary or Shrub, just that I am not fond of Hillary.

As to the 2000 election, if the people who voted for Nader had voted for Gore instead, he still might have lost due to republican chicanery.
Seamus
New You're out of your head.
And its not the first time.

Those idiots voting for Nader voted for who they wanted.

The Democrats put GWB in the office by putting forward loser candidates and not delivering a unified message to the US Voters.
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New You ARE kidding, right?
DeLay disenfranchised roughly 40% of the Great State of Tejas through his engineered gerrymandering of the state in a non-census year. Strikes me as a rather large number of "little non-entities" in that group (and a couple for larger non-entities, if you count the Congrescritters that lost their seats as a result).
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
Expand Edited by jb4 May 8, 2007, 11:39:41 AM EDT
New name one individual little person that delay hosed over
as bad as the waitress that got stiffed for a $100+ meal tab like Hillary did. Most other people would have admitted the oversight (as did hill) and rushed to personally apologize and out of their own pocket pay the tab plus healthy tip. Not our Hil, she grumped that she wasnt supposed to pay for the meal, and grimaced when she found someone else to settle the tab for the face amount. That IS SKANKY by definition.

Now name the person that delay PERSONALLY stiffed like that. A person he didnt know or was related to. An ordinary person.
thanx,
bill
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New The way you are going on about the waitress issue
I thought it was some type of habitual thing she did. I have only seen the one incident reported and she sent the waitress' son a $100 savings bond. Is there more to your personal animosity towards her?

OTOH, if Delay is good tipper that makes him less of a vile person than Hillary?
Seamus
New Hi. Let me intorduce myself.
My name is Jay, I'm a little person (no, not that kind of Little Person; rather, the kind Box is referring to), and I got hosed over by DeLay. How, you might ask, somewhat incredulously? Well, due to DeLay's meddlings, I have been denied accurate, proper representation in the US House of Representatives. No, I'm not a resident of Tejas (Gawd be praised), but since the gerrymandering he engineered has reduced the ranks of those who oppose the current "administation" from what they would otherwise be, I find that my life, liberty, and property are at greater risk than they would be had Tom Delay just been a regular everyday ol' white-collar felon. So, yes..I've been hosed.

Next question?
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
New quit waggin yer weinie, not the same at all
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New No not the same at all
Waitresses got stiffed on a tip once in a while and are occasionally stiffed for the whole bill - usually by drunk idiots pulling a d&d. Hillary at least was able to recognize the need to look concerned about the problem. Delay still doesn't think he didn't anything wrong and is actively working so more repos can do more of the same to those poor lil' texan bastards.
Seamus
New it would matter if more than 1/2 VOTED till then
piss ass games for the people who care of which most of the people in this country dont
thanx,
bill
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New We go to war with the electorate we have
not with the electorate we wish we had...
Seamus
New Nicely said!
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
New So, y'all show us where you've called Shrub a skank as often
New skank is a female word although skanky is indegenderate
Ive called him a fucktard which is equal genderly speaking
thanx,
bill
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New Actually not equal, AFAICS / IMO.
"Fucktard" is a fricking term of endearment, in comparison to "skank".


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New Nowhere near, IMO
"skank" is at least as offensive as "nigger", IMO.


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New depends on whether you are one dunnit?
Although I dont usually agree with RB KKK Byrd, nigger isnt a color its an attitude
thanx,
bill
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New It's hard to tell what's true, sometimes.
Yes, the message should matter much more than the messenger. But in politics, it's very difficult to separate them. An awful lot of the criticism of Hillary revolves around her history and private conversations. I have no way to judge the veracity of most of those who claim first-hand knowledge of the various bad things she's accused of doing.

She rubs me the wrong way, too. I don't like the way she talks when she gives speeches. It's grating to my ears and it's a visceral reaction. Her head-bobbing when Bill gave speeches was another thing that I thought was manipulative and the press played along with it. I don't like some of the things I've read about her time in Arkansas (like her making so much money on cattle futures, with help from her friends). But she seems to generate great loyalty from people who know her (with the famous exception or two).

I don't think she's evil. I think the fact that she's held up so well from the decades of whithering criticism indicates that she's not just a political hack. She's a hack with some substance, unlike, say, (fill in the blank).

Calling her "skank" strikes me as being much worse than calling Bush "shrub" and I thought that was borderline childish. If one has criticism of her, one makes a better case by using verifiable facts and by not using misogynistic terms.

IMHO, of course. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who wonders why so many are brainwashed that Presidents have to be "likable" these days.)
     Some 2008 contribution demographics - (Seamus) - (92)
         name the candidate who is not an lawyer :-( -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             "A lawyer" [or "an attorney"]. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad)
         And guess who owns the skank? - (a6l6e6x) - (89)
             the industrialists thought that they owned hitler atthe time -NT - (boxley)
             Et tu, Alexus? - (CRConrad) - (87)
                 if she was black - (boxley) - (5)
                     I was looking for comments from you - (Seamus) - (3)
                         no worries, coudnt tell anything under the cottage cheese -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                             So you're an ageist also? -NT - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                 nope Im an assist - (boxley)
                     Thank you for proving my point so conclusively. -NT - (CRConrad)
                 Mrs. Clinton delighteth me not, but - (rcareaga) - (80)
                     dont mind sex meself - (boxley) - (2)
                         Yeah, it does. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Amen! - (jb4)
                     Not misogyny, my friend. - (a6l6e6x) - (76)
                         Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Who are you going to believe? - (a6l6e6x)
                         Not originally your own, perhaps. - (CRConrad) - (73)
                             I'll grant you that the skank term comes from Box. - (a6l6e6x) - (72)
                                 The "speaking ebonics" meme was debunked long ago - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                     Here's a sample. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                         Now that you've confirmed she was quoting a hymn - (Silverlock)
                                 Look, she's just another ambitious pol - (rcareaga) - (68)
                                     lemme explain to the unwashed - (boxley) - (32)
                                         Why? - (crazy) - (31)
                                             shrub with brains, that doesnt scare you? -NT - (boxley) - (30)
                                                 Shrub she is not - (Seamus) - (4)
                                                     tolerant? ya gotta be kidding - (boxley) - (3)
                                                         I said she is not a religious intolerant - (Seamus) - (2)
                                                             what a huge blind spot she creates in some folks - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                 I am not giving her a pass, just not comparing her to Shrub - (Seamus)
                                                 Sbrub with brains... - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     vicous trogdelyte that thinks? I agree -NT - (boxley)
                                                 Bullsh*t - (crazy) - (22)
                                                     Geffen's quote - (bepatient) - (21)
                                                         In many way's that just means she's a politician - (Seamus)
                                                         You are confusing tacticts with goals - (crazy) - (9)
                                                             What is it with you all. - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                 You didn't but the thread had devolved into a Bush vs - (Seamus) - (7)
                                                                     If they were running against each other - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                         And that means you're a fricking wingnut. -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                                             How so exactly? - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                 By NOT voting AGAINST the abomination. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                                     Sorry, ain't buying what you're selling - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                         Easy. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                             Your "logic" is prejudiced - (bepatient)
                                                         Compare and contrast w/ current "Administration"... -NT - (jb4) - (9)
                                                             So your argument is "they do it too so it must be ok?" - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                 No my argument is: Put yer shock and awe in yer pocket - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                     Seen what, exactly? - (bepatient)
                                                                 "You're"? Sigh... -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                                     huh? -NT - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                         Google may be Your Friend... - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                             Yabut.. Shirley - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                 Yeah, I know - I was trying to indicate my being... - (CRConrad)
                                                                             Yabut...ppl only read headlines! -NT - (bepatient)
                                     Agreed. It bothers me when Dems use Repubs talking points. - (Another Scott) - (28)
                                         It shouldn't matter who says what. - (a6l6e6x) - (27)
                                             No it shouldn't matter - (Seamus) - (25)
                                                 not at all, here is the definition - (boxley) - (24)
                                                     By that definition almost all of the politicians are skanks - (Seamus) - (18)
                                                         I like this quote - (boxley) - (17)
                                                             Alot of the animosity comes from Clintons being as sucessful - (Seamus) - (16)
                                                                 what lttle non entities did they crush? -NT - (boxley) - (15)
                                                                     Delay and Blankenship Gringrich and his ex-wives - (Seamus) - (5)
                                                                         blankenship is not a little people and an exwife - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                             I am not championing her by any means - (Seamus) - (3)
                                                                                 And that makes YOU, too, a right-wing-nut. - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                                                     I said it tongue in cheek and I should have indicated that - (Seamus)
                                                                                     You're out of your head. - (bepatient)
                                                                     You ARE kidding, right? - (jb4) - (8)
                                                                         name one individual little person that delay hosed over - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                             The way you are going on about the waitress issue - (Seamus)
                                                                             Hi. Let me intorduce myself. - (jb4) - (5)
                                                                                 quit waggin yer weinie, not the same at all -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                                     No not the same at all - (Seamus) - (3)
                                                                                         it would matter if more than 1/2 VOTED till then - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                             We go to war with the electorate we have - (Seamus) - (1)
                                                                                                 Nicely said! -NT - (jb4)
                                                     So, y'all show us where you've called Shrub a skank as often -NT - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                         skank is a female word although skanky is indegenderate - (boxley) - (3)
                                                             Actually not equal, AFAICS / IMO. - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                                 Nowhere near, IMO - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                     depends on whether you are one dunnit? - (boxley)
                                             It's hard to tell what's true, sometimes. - (Another Scott)
                                     You can believe what you like. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                                         I think that one of the biggest strikes against her... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             What Obama reminds me of. - (mmoffitt)
                                         So, did you call HIM such NASTY things? No? Q.E. frickin' D! -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                             That may be. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                                 The only candidate to ever get my dough was Jerry Brown. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)

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