Bush vetos war spending bill with troop withdrawl clause

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President Bush vetoed legislation to pull U.S. troops out of
Iraq Tuesday night in a historic showdown with Congress over whether the unpopular and costly war should end or escalate.

Well, he did it. I would have been surprised if he had signed it.

Lacking the votes to override the president, Democrats have already signaled they intend to approve a replacement bill stripped of the troop withdrawal timetable. Determined to challenge Bush's policy, they are turning their attention to setting goals for the Iraqi government to meet as it struggles to establish a more secure, democratic society.

Ugly, but sensible. Though Obama should take some rap for admitting ahead of time that they Democrats already had plans to do so.

Bush will meet with congressional leaders \ufffd Democrats and Republicans alike \ufffd on Wednesday to discuss new legislation.

He said Democrats had made a political statement by passing anti-war legislation. "They've sent their message, and now it's time to put politics behind us and support our troops with the funds," the president said.

Oddly sensible statement for Bush. But fairly easy in his position, since the Democrats have already said they will cave on the major points. I still expect the final bill to contain a number of clauses that Bush dislikes.

Both sides are sure to be carefully sizing up just how much they can push on this one. Not only against the other party but how it plays in public.

Jay

Post #283,560 by JayMehaffey 5/1/07 8:03:37 PM Reply	Bush vetos war spending bill with troop withdrawl clause [link\|http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070501/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq\|Yahoo] President Bush vetoed legislation to pull U.S. troops out of Iraq Tuesday night in a historic showdown with Congress over whether the unpopular and costly war should end or escalate. Well, he did it. I would have been surprised if he had signed it. Lacking the votes to override the president, Democrats have already signaled they intend to approve a replacement bill stripped of the troop withdrawal timetable. Determined to challenge Bush's policy, they are turning their attention to setting goals for the Iraqi government to meet as it struggles to establish a more secure, democratic society. Ugly, but sensible. Though Obama should take some rap for admitting ahead of time that they Democrats already had plans to do so. Bush will meet with congressional leaders \ufffd Democrats and Republicans alike \ufffd on Wednesday to discuss new legislation. He said Democrats had made a political statement by passing anti-war legislation. "They've sent their message, and now it's time to put politics behind us and support our troops with the funds," the president said. Oddly sensible statement for Bush. But fairly easy in his position, since the Democrats have already said they will cave on the major points. I still expect the final bill to contain a number of clauses that Bush dislikes. Both sides are sure to be carefully sizing up just how much they can push on this one. Not only against the other party but how it plays in public. Jay
Post #283,591 by tuberculosis 5/1/07 10:51:52 PM 8/21/07 6:04:16 AM Reply	The Dems could simply say "War Over" and have support We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard. H.L. Mencken, 1914 Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:04:16 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #283,619 by mmoffitt 5/2/07 8:23:26 AM Reply	Yabut. Then their corporate sponsors eating at the taxpayer trough would pull some of their $$$'s in campaign contributions. All this "We're respresenting the desire of the Murican Peeple" propaganda makes me nauseous. The truth is they're playing whatever card they can to have to top seat at the trough again. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #283,626 by tuberculosis 5/2/07 9:18:46 AM 8/21/07 6:05:00 AM Reply	Seems to me the key to getting the top slot is to please the american people. We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard. H.L. Mencken, 1914 Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:00 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #283,651 by jake123 5/2/07 11:25:08 AM Reply	Realising that takes intelligence and foresight. They're stuck in a box and can't think their way out of it.
Post #283,683 by mmoffitt 5/2/07 2:47:31 PM Reply	No. The key to getting the top spot is to generate enough money from the Corporate class that you can play endless, focus grouped propaganda on the TeeVee so that Billy Bob and Mary Alice remember what your name is when they go to the polls. Getting to the top spot is a function of how good you are at raising money and precious little else. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell

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