Post #281,115
4/9/07 7:37:18 PM
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Need to get a new monitor
OK, I haven't even looked yet, but it's just so damned convenient to have this group mind available I thought I'd check here first.
I am constrained on space, 19 inch is all I can fit in the current setup I have and I really need a new monitor. The current one has "issues". I'm looking for a LCD with ability to handle a high end graphics card (if I buy one). Given how long LCD monitors have been available, I'm hoping for some cheap pixelicious goodness.
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Post #281,117
4/9/07 7:41:48 PM
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Just the thing
[link|http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2418924&CatId=170&SRCCODE=WEBGOOMON&CMP=KNC-GOOGL|http://www.tigerdire...MON&CMP=KNC-GOOGL]
Cheap $120
"The I-Inc 19-inch LCD delivers realistic images in vibrant colors. This attractive, high-performance monitor offers 700:1 contrast, 250-nit brightness, and SXGA 1280 x 1024 resolution. 8ms response for outstanding video performance. Plus, the I-Inc CY-199DP comes with DVI and VGA(D-sub) inputs. Make Your Life Better With I-Inc\ufffds 19-inch LCD color active matrix TFT display. "
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Post #281,124
4/9/07 8:26:44 PM
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Do you want cheap, or good (or both)?
[link|http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-guide_26.html|PVA] screens apparently have a good compromise among color reproduction, viewing angle, and pixel speed.
Older monitors can be very cheap, but have restricted viewing angles (meaning the colors will vary across the screen).
I'd strongly consider this [link|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001069|19" Samsung], but if you don't want to spend that much, I'd pick a dollar amount and find the one with the best rating at that price point.
HTH a bit. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
(The most recent LCD screen I bought was a 17" Samsung SyncMaster 710N so my personal experience is a little out of date. It's been good to us though.)
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Post #281,134
4/9/07 9:01:00 PM
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Too slow (20ms)
[link|http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2430652&CatId=170|http://www.tigerdire...2430652&CatId=170]
Acer 700:1 5ms response $190.
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Post #281,136
4/9/07 9:03:57 PM
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Another
[link|http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1649722&CatId=170|http://www.tigerdire...1649722&CatId=170]
Viewsonic 2ms for just over 200 after rebate.
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Post #281,202
4/10/07 1:38:02 AM
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Remember that LCD specs are like printer specs
only slightly related to the truth. Most of the LCD specs are pretty useless for figuring out how good a monitor is for real world use.
--Tony
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Post #281,140
4/9/07 9:20:04 PM
4/9/07 9:57:40 PM
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How about this one? Under $200 it is.
[link|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001100|SAMSUNG 920NW Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 - Retail] 5ms WXGA+ $189 with $20 mail-in rebate. $169 after rebate plus shipping
3 Business Day Shipping $12.49
These Newegg mail-in Rebates do work, you just have to follow the rules. I've done it.
[link|http://www.samsung.com/ph/products/monitor/lcdmonitor/920nw.asp|Samsung Product page]
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Edited by folkert
April 9, 2007, 09:21:08 PM EDT
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April 9, 2007, 09:57:40 PM EDT
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Post #281,147
4/9/07 9:30:20 PM
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I don't like the resolution limit of 900vert on those
In my opinion, Widescreen monitors less than 21 inches are too small.
Course, if you don't agree with that opinion...t'is a nice one at a good price.
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Post #281,153
4/9/07 9:38:01 PM
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Then here... picky:
[link|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001226|SAMSUNG 204B-BK Black 20.1" 5ms DVI LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 800:1 - Retail] UXGA 1600 x 1200, 5ms $294, $20 mail-in rebate, $274 after. 3 Business Day Shipping $16.44
More money, 1600x1200, 20" about the same physical size as my 19" in my front room, though much less deep.
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Post #281,159
4/9/07 9:48:11 PM
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:-)
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Post #281,321
4/11/07 1:37:55 AM
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Tough on older eyes
1600x1200 in 24" works. In 21", that might be hard on older eyes.
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Post #281,323
4/11/07 1:49:02 AM
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21"...
I have everything setup in X, so that the 1280x1024 Firefox, OO.o Writer and so on have the same actual size on the 1600x1200 screen.
Now, if I went to 2048x1536... even for *ME* that is quite a bit smaller than I;d like. 1920x1440 was small as well.
I don't envy anyone needing 1280x1024 @ 21" size. Yikes.
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Post #281,324
4/11/07 2:49:21 AM
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This is why...
...I'm looking forward to the Leopard (OS X 10.5) upgrade - resolution independent interface.
My iMac has 1920x1200 on a 24" screen which is great most of the time, but there are times (early morning/late evening, mostly), when I just want to put it into Blind Man mode with Really Big Words And Pictures.
Peter
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Post #281,407
4/11/07 2:47:51 PM
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You can try it now
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Post #281,408
4/11/07 3:07:36 PM
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ooh shiny
Works, too!
Peter
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Post #281,419
4/11/07 4:37:24 PM
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can do it app-by-app too
change the settings via terminal - [link|http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macosxhints/2006/08/guiscale/|Play with GUI scaling]
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Post #282,211
4/17/07 7:22:25 PM
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Hey...NOW yer talkin!
Might just have to go out and get one of those...or maybe a TaylorMade R7 460 driver...Hmmm, decisions, decisions....
jb4
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Post #282,212
4/17/07 7:22:41 PM
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Hey...NOW yer talkin!
Might just have to go out and get one of those...or maybe a TaylorMade R7 460 driver...Hmmm, decisions, decisions....
jb4
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— George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
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Post #281,168
4/9/07 10:15:53 PM
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Depends on what you're doing.
Also, you need to be careful that you're comparing apples-to-apples in pixel speed. [link|http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00009.htm|Gray to gray versus black to white to black].
We've got some LCDs at work that have big "2 ms!" stickers on them and they don't look any better than our 17" Samsung [link|http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/tft/710n.asp?page=Specifications|710N] with its 12 ms response time. In fact, I think they look worse.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #281,192
4/9/07 11:34:42 PM
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interesting read - thanx!
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Post #281,156
4/9/07 9:45:14 PM
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Let me refine my requirements. Under US $200.
And even that will be a stretch with my current thin wallet.
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Post #281,161
4/9/07 9:48:45 PM
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My first link was sub 200.
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Post #281,165
4/9/07 10:00:35 PM
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any pawn shops in your area? good place for bargains
since pawn shop owners dont know a lot about this stuff they lend at 15% of value and sell at 25%
thanx,
bill
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Post #281,142
4/9/07 9:21:36 PM
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take a bus to walmart and see how they look, buy elsewhere
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Post #281,237
4/10/07 1:16:39 PM
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Re: 19 inch
Measure your current monitor, probably horizontally, to see how much room you have. Many of the LCD monitors have a small frame around the display compared to the CRT kind. You may very well be able to buy a 20" LCD.
Alex
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Post #281,252
4/10/07 2:53:40 PM
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Hmm. I think I screwed up.
I forgot monitors are measured on the diagonal. I have 19 inches horizontal space available. What that works out to in diagonal, I don't know. 21?
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Post #281,256
4/10/07 3:08:29 PM
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At 4:3, almost 24"
23.75" to be precise. Different for a widescreen monitor.
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Post #281,258
4/10/07 3:12:03 PM
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Pretty much 19" diagonal is the ...
Cut off for "Cheap and good resolution"
Once you go to 20.1 or better, the price skyrockets. If the price for a 20" monitor is sub $200, don;t expect very much in terms of quality.
19" LCDs do have some very good deals, but you really have to look at what you buy, BEFORE you buy it. So, IMO Samsung has had some good monitors for a long time, CRT and LCD.
It is up to you to decide.
And BTW, my 21" Monitors I just got recently, actually look better than the Samsung 204B I had a while ago. I had to "turn them down". I am also using 100Hz refresh rate.
Very nice. If it weren't SDB, I'd be plum as happy as I could get.
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