but those taxes apply to the customers

Post #279,394 by Simon_Jester 3/24/07 9:47:06 AM Reply	but those taxes apply to the customers and never (well, rarely never) take profits from the companies. That said: adding an additional tax to gasoline (and other energy) which is already high to invest in other energy sources? Most taxpayers won't sign up for it. Even if most conservates will recognize that it is an effective mechanism to promote other energy sources. Tax gasoline high and allow ethanol to get a good foothold. Standard economics.
Post #279,398 by Andrew Grygus 3/24/07 10:32:35 AM Reply	Just keep in mind . . . . . every gallon of ethanol made for motor fuel drives up your cost for food. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #279,401 by Another Scott 3/24/07 10:57:07 AM Reply	Well, there's always sugar cane. But it has a lot of problems as well. A long detailed article on the history of sugar cane and Brazil's experience with ethanol from it is at [link\|http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/2390\|The Oil Drum]. Cheers, Scott. (Who is not sure he want to see a [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sugar_Refining_Company\|Sugar Trust] resurrected.)
Post #280,094 by Another Scott 3/30/07 12:54:38 PM Reply	Lula OpEd at the Washington Post. [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032902019.html\|Here]. He addresses the environmental impact of sugar cane and other issues in increasing ethanol production. Cheers, Scott.
Post #279,416 by jake123 3/24/07 1:14:28 PM Reply	Not only that but it also drives up the cost of... fuel. Basically, right now it takes 1.1 calories of input for every calorie of output from those technologies, and guess where the input calories come from? Yep, oil. It's actually less efficient than just burning gasoline/diesel/etc directly. OTOH, it's a GREAT vote buyer in the farm belt, where people seem to think they have some god-given right to certainty in income denied to most of us.
Post #279,418 by drewk 3/24/07 1:18:58 PM 3/24/07 1:22:16 PM Reply	Nit: not farm belt -- corn belt It's all about the corn. === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com] Edited by drewk March 24, 2007, 01:22:16 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #279,419 by boxley 3/24/07 1:20:31 PM Reply	not corn belt, conagra daniels belt Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #279,423 by bepatient 3/24/07 1:50:28 PM Reply	Hey, I thought it was [link\|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vaNeaWQoHI\|All about the Pentiums, baby!] Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}

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