Post #278,974
3/20/07 9:24:06 PM
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Oops!
You mean this time they weren't just lying out of reflex, there was actually something illegal they were hiding? Gosh, why didn't anybody see this coming?
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Post #278,980
3/20/07 10:52:45 PM
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For values of "anybody" asymptotically...
...approaching "Bill Patient".
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Post #279,003
3/21/07 7:09:02 AM
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You haven't been paying attention have you?
Feinstein's been yelling about this already. Lam was on the "non-performers" list 2 years before her first prosecution. Unsure about the Guam situation...but since they got Abramoff...why would they need to fire the US-Att for investigating him? And "obstruction of justice" is enough of a stretch that even the author of the column admits that the firings may well be legal (Todd's guilty verdict notwithstanding) It is far too soon to say that anyone committed a crime, and it may well be that no one has. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #279,007
3/21/07 8:26:01 AM
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Maybe the problem is the definition of 'crime'.
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Post #279,012
3/21/07 8:50:50 AM
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Final try
And "obstruction of justice" is enough of a stretch that even the author of the column admits that the firings may well be legal If by "legal" you mean that there was no law explicitly prohibiting the specific actions in this case, you may be right. Maybe not, if ongoing investigations were indeed stopped by the firings. But the assertion I've made several times, which you still haven't addressed, is that elected leaders should be held to at least as high a standard as military personnel. Specifically, it should be possible to find them guilty of abuse of office[1] even if there was no law explicitly prohibiting their behavior. [1] Or some other term if "abuse of office" already has a specific legal definition. ===
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Post #279,021
3/21/07 9:45:58 AM
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so you want a "dammit I dont like him" law?
sure tried hard enough with Clinton, didnt work then either.
thanx,
bill
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Post #279,029
3/21/07 10:17:42 AM
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Essentially thats what it would be.
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Post #279,037
3/21/07 11:16:31 AM
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Because most people didn't care about the BJ
They cared about the lies. The Dems couldn't hang him on it, because most people figured, "Eh, I'd have lied, too."
With this administration, it's not just the lies. That's just the easier stuff to prove. But it suggests that there's something behind it. In many cases, it seems that there is something behind it.
Like [link|http://onegoodmovemedia.org/movies/0703/ds032007johnbolton.mov|Jon Stewart asked Bolton] (paraphrased, I can't watch the clip here), "If there was nothing wrong with what the administration did, why didn't they just man-up and say, 'This is what we did, and this is why?'"
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Post #279,053
3/21/07 1:48:04 PM
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so what is behind it?
these 8 people were fired because they were going to drag bush off to jail? The only thing the emails say is that they wernt loyal bushies. The real crime is how many people and man hours it took to decide to replace these clowns, thats a crime.
thanx,
bill
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Post #279,057
3/21/07 2:00:52 PM
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One was gonna arrest a guy already in jail, don't forget
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Post #279,160
3/22/07 1:44:15 AM
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Perhaps it was about making sure he stayed there long enough
to properly pay his debt to society.
As I hear it on the radio - Guam guy removal delayed Abramoff nailing by something like 18 months.
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Post #279,180
3/22/07 9:26:26 AM
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well, pelosi ought to watch her ass then
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Post #279,028
3/21/07 10:17:17 AM
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I have addressed it.
The answer is no. I don't think you can apply a like standard to UCMJ to politicians.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #279,179
3/22/07 9:25:08 AM
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On list, but pubically praised
It is not clear that there were going to fire her on anyone else on the list, Lam has stated that they hadn't even told her that she was under performing. According to the emails they were considering other actions to improve her supposed deficiencies.
What changed?
With Lam, there is a potential link of Cheney to the Dukester case. The link is rather far out there, but fun to gossip with. The man who paid for the $140K for the boat Cunningham was living on was allegedly paid $140K by the vp's office for office furniture at the time the price for the boat was negotiated.
Maybe that is why she got the ax?
Seamus
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Post #279,189
3/22/07 9:50:03 AM
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And the rest were just cover?
Not buying Feinstein's rant.
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Post #279,215
3/22/07 1:07:00 PM
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Whatever changed, changed the equation for all of them
Hers is just one example of why the perfermonce issue was not the whole issue and may just be the cover story.
They couldn't decide how to handle her performance issue until one day after she notified the Justice Dept of her intent to issue search warrants to Wilkes and Foggo as part of the Cunningham investigation?
"Please call me at your convenience to discuss the following," Sampson wrote, referring to "[t]he real problem we have right now with Carol Lam that leads me to conclude that we should have someone ready to be nominated on 11/18, the day her 4-year term expires."
from: [link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/18/AR2007031801263.html|http://www.washingto...007031801263.html]
If she had been on the list for 2 years, what did Sampson mean by the 'real problem'? Wouldn't he have just said that the perfermonce issue is the issue we need to talk about? It begs to be investigated further.
Seamus
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Post #279,226
3/22/07 3:56:31 PM
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Of course
just like the talk all the right wingnuts keep spreading about how Clinton fired all 93 AGs when he took office just to get the one going after Rostenkowski and the one leading the Whitewater investigation. He couldn't target just those two without it being obvious, so he nailed all of them.
It must be true; I read it on the Internet. ;-)
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Post #279,259
3/22/07 8:56:21 PM
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I love that internet thingy too
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