Re: Vista - for review and comment.

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Post #278,171 by altmann 3/13/07 7:55:37 PM Reply	Re: Vista - for review and comment. Vista is a price increase for Windows. Vista Home Basic, which most desktop computers come with, is inadequate even for most home users - forcing an upgrade. Vista's built-in Upgrade Anytime handles that, with versions costing up to $399 - have your credit card ready. Actually all versions are on the machine but must be "activated". I question your assertion that "most desktop computers come with" Vista Home Basic. Also, how is inadequate compared to the more expensive versions (not as pretty I'll give you)? Also, it's called "Anytime Upgrade", and the Anytime Upgrade price from Basic to Ultimate is $139. The more likely upgrade destination from Basic would be Home Premium for $79. -- Chris Altmann
Post #278,173 by Andrew Grygus 3/13/07 8:04:35 PM Reply	Thanks, that needs to be re-worded . . . . . and the costs corrected. One thing I hear Home Basic won't do is write CDs. Of course that probably means Microsoft's CD writing isn't in it but 3rd party writers could probably be installed. My clients have always been completely mystified by Microsoft's CD writing software anyway. I remember one who "drag and dropped" a huge number of marketing files to an erasable CD. A few days later she accidentally deleted most of those files on the hard disk and found all that had been written to the CD was shortcuts to the files on the hard disk. Fortunately her files were still in the recycle bin. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #278,175 by drewk 3/13/07 8:13:35 PM Reply	I got bit by the CD writer once, too It's a bad abstraction. It wants to treat all drives as equal: HD, network or removable. === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #278,177 by Andrew Grygus 3/13/07 8:18:51 PM Reply	I repeat over and over to my clients . . . . . "Always drag and drop with the RIGHT button, never the LEFT. With the right button you chose from a menu and know what's going to happen. With the left button Windows decides and it's often wrong". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

Vista - for review and comment. - (Andrew Grygus) - (44) - March 13, 2007, 06:12:47 PM EDT

OK, here's one of my usual nits: - (CRConrad) - (1) - March 13, 2007, 06:29:01 PM EDT

Re: OK, here's one of my usual nits: - (Andrew Grygus) - March 13, 2007, 06:36:16 PM EDT

You should add a bit about CAD in Vista - (tonytib) - (3) - March 13, 2007, 07:15:00 PM EDT

I wasn't aware of that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - March 13, 2007, 07:37:21 PM EDT

Re: You should add a bit about CAD in Vista - (altmann) - (1) - March 13, 2007, 07:43:49 PM EDT

That's the leading theory, but no proof yet it's the cause -NT - (tonytib) - March 14, 2007, 11:18:08 AM EDT

Re: Vista - for review and comment. - (altmann) - (3) - March 13, 2007, 07:55:37 PM EDT

Thanks, that needs to be re-worded . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - March 13, 2007, 08:04:35 PM EDT

I got bit by the CD writer once, too - (drewk) - (1) - March 13, 2007, 08:13:35 PM EDT

I repeat over and over to my clients . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - March 13, 2007, 08:18:51 PM EDT

My nits/edits/suggestions - (drewk) - (3) - March 13, 2007, 08:10:19 PM EDT

Thanks, many of your suggestions have been . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - March 13, 2007, 09:38:12 PM EDT

But can you create non-premium content? - (drewk) - (1) - March 13, 2007, 09:40:56 PM EDT

I haven't heard that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - March 13, 2007, 09:47:39 PM EDT

Another tiny nit. - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 13, 2007, 08:25:11 PM EDT

Dang! I was thinking to myself . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - March 13, 2007, 09:40:59 PM EDT

Re: Another tiny nit. - (pwhysall) - March 14, 2007, 08:53:19 AM EDT

2 GB RAM - (andread) - (24) - March 14, 2007, 10:19:23 AM EDT

Re: 2 GB RAM - (pwhysall) - (17) - March 14, 2007, 10:29:34 AM EDT

4 GB - (andread) - (16) - March 14, 2007, 02:22:39 PM EDT

Nope, consensus is 2GB - (pwhysall) - (15) - March 14, 2007, 02:43:22 PM EDT

Re: Nope, consensus is 2GB - (andread) - (14) - March 14, 2007, 04:50:06 PM EDT

Wait, aren't you the MS fan here? - (drewk) - (13) - March 14, 2007, 05:12:22 PM EDT

I know this is counter-culture here... - (admin) - (6) - March 14, 2007, 05:18:19 PM EDT

Huh? What's "pragmatic user" about trying to spin.... - (CRConrad) - (5) - March 14, 2007, 05:46:10 PM EDT

I don't see it that way... - (admin) - (4) - March 14, 2007, 05:51:01 PM EDT

Yeah, but then - aren't you the one with the eye problems? - (CRConrad) - (3) - March 14, 2007, 07:08:30 PM EDT

If that affected it... - (admin) - (2) - March 14, 2007, 07:39:33 PM EDT

Ah. - (CRConrad) - March 14, 2007, 07:50:17 PM EDT

But one of them will be missing the head -NT - (drewk) - March 14, 2007, 10:14:13 PM EDT

the MS fan here - (andread) - (5) - March 15, 2007, 11:33:37 AM EDT

FWIW - (drewk) - (4) - March 15, 2007, 12:22:52 PM EDT

you forgot to say - (andread) - (3) - March 15, 2007, 12:37:46 PM EDT

Yes there is -NT - (crazy) - (2) - March 15, 2007, 07:16:16 PM EDT

and that would be..... -NT - (andread) - (1) - March 16, 2007, 10:15:59 AM EDT

Lots (new thread) - (crazy) - March 16, 2007, 09:53:42 PM EDT

I just ordered a system with 16GB - (crazy) - (5) - March 14, 2007, 09:55:50 PM EDT

Boot VMWare? Doesn't it need a host OS? -NT - (drewk) - (4) - March 14, 2007, 10:15:19 PM EDT

Yep, nope. - (crazy) - (2) - March 14, 2007, 10:42:11 PM EDT

Does the free version do that, too? -NT - (drewk) - (1) - March 14, 2007, 10:46:56 PM EDT

Nope - (crazy) - March 14, 2007, 11:25:29 PM EDT

VMware ESX. - (folkert) - March 15, 2007, 01:02:24 PM EDT

Re: Vista - for review and comment. - (pwhysall) - March 14, 2007, 10:28:44 AM EDT

More refs - (drewk) - March 14, 2007, 12:04:17 PM EDT

cf. Amway - same phenom; effective too.
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