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New Same as the former CO at Walter Reed
His "apology" consisted of, "Mistakes were made, and I was in charge." That's not an apology, that's a simple statement of incontrovertible fact.
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Kip Hawley is still an idiot.

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New Y'know what that sounds like?
It sounds like any ability to say "I made a mistake" has been carefully leached out of him. Such people need some lessons in responsibility.

Wade.


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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
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Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New Nah, I don't think that was quite DrooK's point.
Even a direct statement of "I made a mistake" is still just a statement of fact, not an apology. An apology would be, "I made a mistake AND I APOLOGIZE", or "I made a mistake AND I AM SORRY".

THAT is the bit that has either "been carefully leached out of" these guys -- or maybe they never acquired it in the first place.

(This may go to the very bottom of who -- what -- they are.)


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New "The past exonerative"
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/washington/14mistakes.html|NY Times]:

WASHINGTON, March 13 \ufffd Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales fell back on a classic Washington linguistic construct on Tuesday when he acknowledged that \ufffdmistakes were made\ufffd in the dismissals of eight federal prosecutors last year.

The phrase sounds like a confession of error or even contrition, but in fact, it is not quite either one. The speaker is not accepting personal responsibility or pointing the finger at anyone else.

[...]

The nonconfessions inspired William Schneider, a political guru here, to note a few years ago that Washington had contributed a new tense to the language. \ufffdThis usage,\ufffd he said, \ufffdshould be referred to as the past exonerative.\ufffd


It's worse in Gonzales's case because [link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/13/AR2007031301515.html|he's trying to have it both ways]:

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales faced the cameras for all of nine minutes yesterday, but he managed to contradict himself at least four times as he fought off calls to resign over the firing of U.S. attorneys.

"Mistakes were made," he said in fluent scandalese, but "I think it was the right decision."
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"I am responsible for what happens at the Department of Justice," he posited, but "I . . . was not involved in any discussions about what was going on."

"Kyle Sampson" -- Gonzales's chief of staff -- "has resigned," he said, but "he is still at the department."

And, finally, "I believe in the independence of our U.S. attorneys," Gonzales maintained, but "all political appointees can be removed . . . for any reason."


Gonzales should go.

Cheers,
Scott.
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Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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Expand Edited by static March 14, 2007, 10:34:19 PM EDT
New Fine distinction, there.
But a valid one.

I was going after their inability to say "It was me..." which is a first level of responsibility, but to own the problem requires remorse and contrition ("... and I'm sorry."), although that can also mean "I'm sorry that you found it" rather than "I'm sorry that I thought I should do it".

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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· [link|http://yceran.org/|website] ·

     US Attorneys being fired? - (static) - (36)
         Seems to be holding up - (JayMehaffey) - (10)
             Josh Marshall has been on this for a while now. - (Silverlock) - (2)
                 In today's dead-tree Milw. Journal-Sentinel - (jb4)
                 A decent apology to Josh from Time's DC bureau chief - (rcareaga)
             new insight into the issue - (boxley) - (3)
                 I don't think it's happend this late in a term before... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Along with the fact - (lincoln)
                 This is different - they were threatened - (tuberculosis)
             There's something I can't help thinking. - (static) - (2)
                 Re: There's something I can't help thinking. - (JayMehaffey)
                 The press is no longer fully complicit - (tuberculosis)
         Washington Post blog series about Gonzales. Part 1 of 4. - (Another Scott) - (6)
             Same as the former CO at Walter Reed - (drewk) - (5)
                 Y'know what that sounds like? - (static) - (4)
                     Nah, I don't think that was quite DrooK's point. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                         "The past exonerative" - (Another Scott)
                         [dup] -NT - (static)
                         Fine distinction, there. - (static)
         DOJ plan to appoint replacements without Sen. confirmation - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Once again, it's the imperial presidency and un-American! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         This is all pretty darned funny - (bepatient) - (15)
             Stay tuned. Well that didn't take long. Perjury, anyone? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 So they should have replaced all 93 for the 2nd term - (bepatient) - (2)
                     No. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Impeach him then. - (bepatient)
             Clinton replaced them all at the BEGINNING of his first term - (CRConrad) - (2)
                 I guess everyone else read the archives, too -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                     Im at August 14 last year. I'll catch up, then go to bed :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
             You missed my point. - (static)
             The inane "Clinton did it too" defense - (lincoln) - (4)
                 the height of intellectual dishonesty == Repo.SOP() - (jb4) - (3)
                     Yeah. What I don't get... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                         My take (FWIW) - (jb4) - (1)
                             It isn't really worth that much. - (bepatient)
             Justice Dept. Would Have Kept 'Loyal' Prosecutors - (lincoln) - (1)
                 #278282. :-) - (Another Scott)

Your occasional fulminations are spicy & crunchy too.
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