Post #277,405
3/5/07 5:48:15 PM
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Anybody had a chance to try Vista yet
and what are the reactions? From what I've heard, it's to be avoided at almost any cost (eg- not at the cost of your job, but that pretty much is the outer limit on that one).
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Post #277,407
3/5/07 5:56:32 PM
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Nope
-- Steve [link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu]
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Post #277,411
3/5/07 7:01:35 PM
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s/had a chance/been forced/ :)
And no, I'm neither of the above, sorry.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #277,413
3/5/07 7:09:35 PM
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Not me, either.
[link|http://minimsft.blogspot.com/|Mini-Microsoft] has a link to [link|http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/02/27/windows-vista-im-breaking-up-with-you/|Chris Pirillo] who talks about his adventures with it. Sounds like a guaranteed path to pain.
Cheers, Scott. (Who hopes to jump to Linux seriously once [link|http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5?highlight=%28feisty%29|Feisty] is out in April.)
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Post #277,419
3/5/07 8:31:09 PM
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Uh, buh?
And here I was, just yesterday, thinking on how I might should upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. At this point, maybe I'll just wait and go to Feisty. Sheesh. Behind the times.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #277,670
3/7/07 9:38:04 PM
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I just have to say this....
Feisty Fawn??????
A herd of Feisty Fawns?????
I think I'd abbreviate it to FF... I wouldn't want to admit I was running something called that! ;)
Brenda
"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ****************************
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Post #277,709
3/8/07 9:51:51 AM
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What on Earth do you think those words mean?
Something sexy? Then you're wrong. If not that, then *why*, exactly, wouldn't you "want to admit I was running something called that! ;)" ?
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Post #277,731
3/8/07 2:08:12 PM
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er... a feisty fawn... meaning a little deer frolicking...
in a lush green meadow.
No nothing sexy.
Just doesn't seem very... well, manly... I guess. And even for us women, it's more along the lines of Bambi than I feel comfortable with.
I like Suse the lizard and Firefox the fox, and even the Tiger those have class and power. What on earth does a fawn do besides frolick in the meadow?
All a matter of opinion, I guess.
Brenda
"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ****************************
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ***********************************
"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 *********************************
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Post #277,740
3/8/07 2:32:07 PM
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It's a code name.
The actual name of that version is "7.04".
(SuSE's logo is not just any lizard, it's a chamaeleon)
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Post #277,741
3/8/07 2:44:10 PM
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Re: It's a code name.
The actual name of that version is "7.04". (SuSE's logo is not just any lizard, it's a chamaeleon) Yep, I know. And I view it as versatile (changeable), etc because of the chameleon. But I can't picture anything symbolized by the feisty fawn. Brenda
"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ****************************
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ***********************************
"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 *********************************
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Post #277,742
3/8/07 2:49:15 PM
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It doesn't symbolise anything.
Ubuntu is the name of the product, 7.04 is the version.
All the symbolism is in the product name - and yes, there's plenty. The versions have whimsical animal names.
Even OS X has no particular Tiger-ishness in 10.4; it's not as if tigers are particularly renowned for having system-wide instant search facilities.
By that same measure, I'm also not aware of any inbuilt backup facilities sported by panthera pardus. I don't think they have to-do lists in their email clients, either.
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Post #277,683
3/7/07 11:18:20 PM
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Next month supposedly.
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Post #277,454
3/6/07 12:21:15 AM
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Re: Not me, either.
Interesting . . . (except for the dirty feeling one is left with, after any -even brief- immersion in the wacky world of Beastie enthsiasts.) What a depressing sample assortment of Me-too blogs, feeding off each other.. all while realizing that this highly-Burnished Turd *shall* be evacuated upon the countless hapless victims of any new hdwre purchase - no. matter. How. Much. it. Sucks. A monopoly can do what it wants. Until a Tipping Point\ufffd occurs. Is Vista IT ?? No mention at all, in Mr. Pirillo's screed, of DRM. But 7 or 8 respondents mentioned it, including - Peer Pressure \ufffd Why DRM Will Help Apple Beat Microsoft - March 5, 2007 @ 6:08 am [link|http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/03/02/why-drm-will-help-apple-beat-microsoft/|http://www.allpeers....e-beat-microsoft/]
[\ufffd] There are plenty of other reasons to anticipate an uptick in the Mac\ufffds fortunes. The switch to Vista in general is an opportunity to take a step back and consider other options, particularly considering all the problems people are encountering. Moreover, the Apple brand is getting a huge boost from its success in the consumer electronics space, combined with a practical advantage since its phenomenally popular gizmos work best with its own computers. [\ufffd] Yeah.. I wonder how the IQ-tets for new hires differ - twixt Cupertino and Redmond. I guess it's a bit early to see stats on Vista rootkit installs VS eXtra Pain levels.. . . . . let's consider a world where Vista was not only a flop, it was a total crash and burnLove. It. Anticipating seeing whatever Feisty Fawn turns out to be.. now.. if only it will also detect the guts of a '04 vintage hP laptop, without choking on GRUB, right off the bat. Like most of the other distros. Thanks for a tawdry tad of titillating techno-trash talk :-0
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Post #277,432
3/5/07 9:35:04 PM
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Had a chance. Blew it off. Had work to do.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #277,451
3/6/07 12:10:33 AM
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Only the unsane will upgrade
The rest will just get it when they buy their next computer.
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Post #277,460
3/6/07 12:42:33 AM
3/6/07 12:43:28 AM
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Yep
Sucks
Deleted the VM.
I just keep Windows XP around in a VM for when family ring up with laptop woes and I need to walk through something.
As for Boot Camp, well, it was interesting, but:
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I clicked "Restore"
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March 6, 2007, 12:43:28 AM EST
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Post #277,467
3/6/07 1:23:45 AM
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Not I, said the cat.
Heck, I'm sick of fighting W2K on a PC that I only have because I still use SonicStage.
I'm glad I warned my Dad out of buying a new PC; he likely would have found it with Vista which I would be reasonably useless at supporting.
Wade.
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Post #277,589
3/7/07 9:35:16 AM
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Accelerated the purchase of wife's laptop to avoid it.
And, the "Express upgrade" to Vista will never be used.
One runs a computer to use the applications not to run an OS.
Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
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Post #277,703
3/8/07 8:53:05 AM
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Anybody with plans to use it ever?
It is rather amazing that in this group nobody has substantially worked with Vista yet.
Where I work the only guy that has tried it is the network admin. And there are no plans to role it out any time soon. We still run Win2000 on some machines because XP blows up some of our internally developed applications*. That should give you an idea what our upgrade schedule is.
Is there anybody even planning on using it?
Jay
* This probably says more about the quality of the applications then of XP.
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Post #277,704
3/8/07 8:56:09 AM
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Not willingly, I wot.
It'll turn up on my work PC at some point, I'm sure; but I don't give a monkey's about that, because as stated elsewhere, I'm paid to use that and the maintenance of it is SEP.
At home? Nah. No point.
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Post #277,719
3/8/07 11:39:06 AM
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Aye.
Eventually our customers will be running it. We've tested our apps on it successfully, so no real reason for us to upgrade yet. IF it can run in a VM, I'll probably buy a copy a year or two down the road. The cool thing is, we support our apps on Windows, Linux (Ubuntu), and Mac OS X. Many of our customers are switching to Macs and some are starting to use Linux. Only one has definite plans for Vista this year.
-- Steve [link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu]
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Post #277,766
3/8/07 4:25:40 PM
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Ditto
The owner is extremely pro-MS, so are the contractors that the VP really likes (they wrote our corporate web site), and our all-in-one IT guy is anti-Linux, anti-Oracle DB, anti-open source. So we'll go to Vista but not too soon. Right now our main targets will be upgrading to SQL Server 2005 and Office 2007.
At home I have no desire to advance beyond XP Pro which, on the face of it, isn't too bad. But since ASP.Net & VB.Net pay the mortgage, I have to have at least one box at home with MS on it.
lincoln
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Post #277,710
3/8/07 9:57:26 AM
3/10/07 4:35:20 PM
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Absolutely
As soon as corp HQ gets it from MS, I will install it in my office and begin my own evaluation
Employees and customers are always buying new machines and most will come with Vista
If it seems to be another Windows ME, I won't go far with it but otherwise I will prepare for the eventual rollout
Am already running Office 2007, IE7 (have IE7 on my 2 home machines as well)
Although I have used Firefox as my browser since before 1.0, I am personally moving over to IE7 since it is faster (XP SP2 updates, etc.) even though I like the look of pages better in Firefox
Colleagues are planning their Vista machines, once winter is over I know folks here will go to Vista (most of us are believers in the clean install)
I recall reading how MS has tripped up and 95, 98, 98SE, ME (score one for the opposition - but it made billions anyway) and XP will be the failures that will finally put MS in its place
Granting that the boy who cried wolf was indeed eaten by a wolf, I don't think Vista will hurt MS in anyway even if it is ME redux
At the Office 2007, Vista, Exchange 2007 launch event I attended, the speaker ([link|http://blogs.technet.com/mjmurphy|his blog]) suggested that we are about 5 years from the Windows 64 bit desktop being the dominant Windows (Exchange 2007 is 64 bit only)
If that conversion to 64 goes faster, Vista could end up a lame duck (I know there is 64 bit Vista) but I don't see that happening (note: I did not get any numbers right in last Tuesday's MegaMillions drawing)
A
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March 10, 2007, 04:35:20 PM EST
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Post #277,890
3/9/07 8:16:21 PM
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OT: IE7 faster?
Interesting you're experiencing that. I've personally found IE6 to be faster than 7, and FF to be faster than either on my personal machine.
OTOH, I've found Office 2007 to be much faster than Office XP, and OpenOffice to be bog slow, even with the preloader running.
Odoru aho ni miru aho! Onaji aho nara odoranya son son!
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Post #277,718
3/8/07 11:32:50 AM
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Home, no. Work, most likely at some point
though we just migrated to XP in the past quarter...so it may be a while.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #277,751
3/8/07 3:11:25 PM
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Even with those... umm lawsuits hanging around on appeal?
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Post #277,726
3/8/07 1:12:03 PM
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Maybe
I was going to switch to it with a new rig, but I don't think the drivers are there yet. Definitely not for gaming, and that's the only decent idea I can think of for getting a new rig now anyways.
My current XP machine is humming along just fine, and I'll continue to fiddle with Vista on my test machine (the sleep mode works well so it's convenient for jumping on the web real quick when my primary PC is off).
We have no plans to roll it out at work but I'll have to start testing some of our software to make sure it still runs one of these days. If Vista comes in at work it'll be one PC at a time when we can't get XP as an option.
-- Chris Altmann
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Post #277,938
3/10/07 11:36:05 AM
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Not only NO, but HELL NO!!!
They'll pry my W2K disk from my cold dead hands!
Mind you, I'd just as soon go to Linux, and I'll probably start making the migration soon (First...Dual Boot, then virtualization with W2K.) I'm not wedded to Windows, but I am wedded to some application that (alas) only run on 'Doze.
<mumble/>
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Post #278,357
3/15/07 1:03:40 PM
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Work definitely, personal eventually
We'll be getting in new PCs at some point with Vista.
I plan on playing with Vista in VMware when I have some time.
When I put together a new PC next year for personal use, it'll likely receive Vista.
lister
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