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Post #276,229 by tuberculosis 12/20/06 5:00:29 PM Reply	Not a problem here Everybody knows everybody. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #276,245 by boxley 12/20/06 7:11:50 PM Reply	you are not exactly on an urban grid layout are you Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,265 by tuberculosis 12/20/06 11:19:46 PM Reply	I've lived on 'em - never had a problem. I used to live [link\|http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1400+South+Pearl+Street,+Denver+Colorado&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=39.691073,-104.98033&spn=0.019781,0.051928&om=1&iwloc=addr\|here] and it was far superior to these developer car culture based cul de sac hells the land-rapists like to build. [link\|http://www.pedestrianfriendly.com/?p=486\|There's] [link\|http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/realestate/2003159704_culsdesac30.html\|no] [link\|http://www.muninetguide.com/articles/Middle-Aged-Suburbs-At-Risk-149.php\|shortage] [link\|http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/AUTODEPENDENT.html\|of] [link\|http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5455743\|evidence] [link\|http://www.peck.ca/nua/ip/ip02.htm\|supporting] [link\|http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3069160/\|this] [link\|http://www.fccdr.usf.edu/upload/projects/tlushtml/tlus120.htm\|position]. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #276,276 by Ashton 12/21/06 5:18:31 AM Reply	Very Nice selection, even if it's too late.. for so many.
Post #276,292 by boxley 12/21/06 11:32:20 AM Reply	was here ground floor in a detached house? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,300 by tuberculosis 12/21/06 1:17:30 PM Reply	Single family home baby story and a half victorian built 1900 - pre cars. Carriage houses on alley in back. Old neighborhood in Denver. Somewhat gone to seed - many nearby houses were rentals, but on its way back. Great pedestrian neighborhood with small commercial center a block away featuring Denver's best sushi restuarant, great little pub, local theater, some shops - all of which brought in a fair amount of traffic evenings and weekends. Parking on street, moderate traffic flow. I think boosting from a cul de sac would be easier - no traffic, nobody comes by during the day, lots of privacy to do the B&E. In a place with reasonable flow, somebody will probably happen by and say something. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #276,301 by boxley 12/21/06 1:19:55 PM Reply	sounds nice, our culdesac always has people at home we know each other and who belongs there. thanx bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,303 by tuberculosis 12/21/06 1:27:00 PM Reply	Sadly, you can't build that kind of neighborhood anymore zoning laws and property developer profit maximization get in the way. Proper living requires decentralizing commerce and fractalizing the structure. Old Denver has one block devoted to commerce every 5-10-ish blocks of houses - often with small businesss on the corners of other blocks. Pedestrian commerce/mixed use planning needs to return. Then, you meet your neighbors. Developers do the opposite - they force commerce to the megamall and make parking miserable, walking impractical, and people drive straight into their garages never meeting their next door neighbors. What a sucky way to live. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]

The Stupidity Of Property Developers - (pwhysall) - (23) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:09:04 AM EST

Explain -NT - (crazy) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:11:36 AM EST

Morning rush hour must be fun with that rotary ... -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:13:40 AM EST

only one way in/out keeps the leeches down -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:19:19 AM EST

That is horrible - (JayMehaffey) - (19) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:22:34 AM EST

It's a detestable little warren of executive rabbit hutches. - (pwhysall) - (15) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:11:42 PM EST

Sounds like some place I'd love to live - (crazy) - (13) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:14:22 PM EST

Miserable layout - (tuberculosis) - (12) - Dec. 19, 2006, 06:02:44 PM EST

yabbut the grids attract the slides - (boxley) - (10) - Dec. 19, 2006, 06:03:19 PM EST

Slides? - (tuberculosis) - (9) - Dec. 19, 2006, 06:07:58 PM EST

slides slide into your neighborhood looking for targets - (boxley) - (8) - Dec. 19, 2006, 09:59:51 PM EST

Not a problem here - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Dec. 20, 2006, 05:00:29 PM EST

you are not exactly on an urban grid layout are you -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Dec. 20, 2006, 07:11:50 PM EST

I've lived on 'em - never had a problem. - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Dec. 20, 2006, 11:19:46 PM EST

Very Nice selection, even if it's too late.. for so many. -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 21, 2006, 05:18:31 AM EST

was here ground floor in a detached house? -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 21, 2006, 11:32:20 AM EST

Single family home - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Dec. 21, 2006, 01:17:30 PM EST

sounds nice, our culdesac always has people at home - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2006, 01:19:55 PM EST

Sadly, you can't build that kind of neighborhood anymore - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 21, 2006, 01:27:00 PM EST

Depends on your goals - (crazy) - Dec. 19, 2006, 07:09:05 PM EST

Is it anywhere near a hub of IT businesses? - (Meerkat) - Dec. 17, 2006, 08:16:32 PM EST

I had to take a second look. - (static) - (2) - Dec. 17, 2006, 07:24:19 PM EST

I also took a second look - (drewk) - Dec. 17, 2006, 08:35:59 PM EST

The road goes ever on and on... - (ubernostrum) - Dec. 19, 2006, 10:07:56 PM EST

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