Post #274,386
11/29/06 10:10:12 PM
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makes sense
I know of a boy who was 5 and sexually molested by the male sitting next to him, he was too afraid to cry out. His parents were on the plane several rows behind with other kids. thanx, bill
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Post #274,410
11/30/06 3:30:21 AM
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Unless other kids were under 5
parents should have been with him and not several rows behind.
Not condoning what was done, but chastizing the seemingly lack of parental supervision.
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Post #274,425
11/30/06 7:45:37 AM
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mother 2 kids under 5 with her full flight
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Post #274,423
11/30/06 7:19:13 AM
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No, it doesn't.
By that sort of logic every single bad event should have wide-ranging preventative measures imposed on everyone else.
People crash their cars? 15mph speed limit. People drink and fight? Ban alcohol. People run up huge debts on internet gambling? Ban it. (oh, wait...) People are bad? Ban people.
Life's full of risks. A single anecdotal story of irresponsible parenting and unobservant air-hostessing doesn't make for any kind of "makes sense" supportive evidence.
This is simply more "won't someone please think of the children" whining.
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Post #274,426
11/30/06 7:48:47 AM
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not anecdotal
further I wont go. However with a young child the ratio of molesters who are women is MUCH lower than that of men. So it is a statistically safe move. thanx, bill
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Post #274,431
11/30/06 8:19:52 AM
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You don't know what that word means, do you?
Newsflash: Even if you saw it, or it happened to you yourself or whatever, it's still the very definition of anecdotal.
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Post #274,437
11/30/06 9:03:09 AM
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Still a crap policy
its a basic assumption that every male on the flight is a child molester.
But even after having all of my "child molester friends"...its still a stupid policy.
The policy SHOULD be to seat all children with their parents...not to move men away from kids stuck in a middle seat.
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Post #274,441
11/30/06 10:37:54 AM
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Concur with that policy - kids sit w/parents
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Post #274,444
11/30/06 11:38:12 AM
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My story
Years ago, when my children were 4 & 2, we took a family vacation. I had booked all 4 seats together for each leg. On the return flight, I asked at the gate to confirm that we we all seated together and was told "Yes". Once on the plane we got to our row only to find that 2 of the seats were already occupied, and these people had boarding passes showing them assigned to our seats. The people acted like jerks and refused to budge so we appealed to the stewardess, who told us she would try to find available seats for my son and I. She returned and said that she couldn't keep us together - the flight was overbooked; the best she could offer was my wife & daughter to be seated in their original seats, I was to be several rows away, and my son was to be several rows farther away from me. My wife and I vehemently said that that was unacceptable, to put our 2 year old over 12 rows away from his mother and 6 rows away from me. The stewardess said that that was the best that she could do. We kept protesting, but got the "ultimatum" speech: either accept these seats or leave the plane since we were holding up their schedule.
My wife came up with a solution: she instructed our son that after he got seated to start crying, kicking the seats, yelling and screaming for his mommy, and don't stop until either he was sitting next to a parent or the plane landed several hours later. The stewardess just stood there, steam coming out of her years. She went and got the captain. My wife told him the situation and gave our son the same instructions in front of him. Pilot looked at the stewardess and said, "either get this kid next to his mother or find 2 seats togeter so he can sit next to his dad - NOW!".
She asked around and finally got 2 seats together for my son & I.
And we don't fly that airline anymore.
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Post #274,446
11/30/06 11:48:42 AM
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I've had similar situations
though the creativity of your solution is to be admired :-)
Fortunately I generally don't have these issues anymore but see them often...and often accept middle seats on flights where I am alone when parents are separated from kids.
I still believe the policy should be to piss off others in order to seat families together. Families readily accept middle seat and rear cabin...where most singles will not...Ive never seen a situation where the airline, with a bit of creativity and nicety, haven't been able to solve these issues. (problem is the attendants generally lack both)
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Post #274,451
11/30/06 12:05:15 PM
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did they make up that policy out of mid air?
Or did they make it up after having to pay out some settlements? I suspect the latter. thanx, bill
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Post #274,452
11/30/06 12:16:56 PM
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Doesn't matter, its still a stupid policy
It may be a fabulous idea...but the implementation is crap. There shouldn't be a situation where a child is seated away from parents. And unaccompanied minors are seated in the front directly in view of the galley.
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Post #274,482
11/30/06 3:57:19 PM
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I'm worried about your psyche, Beep
Complete agreement on successive posts ?!?
Hmmm we might also agree that there is as wide variance in the cuth of stewardii as.. elsewhere. (Some of us may 'attract', evoke? the Worst in any one of them; one has to be There to discern which occurred.)
I once earned a (later, furtive) Big Smile.. when an asshole in front of me, in-his-Cups\ufffd, was being nasty with one. Just after his predictable announcement/demand for ID so he could...
I piped up, in the silence following ~~ "Umm, please give me that info too: I'd like to give my version of events." Etc. Muricans are not alone in their too-frequent public boorishness, of course but IME much more likely to push waaay beyond the pall - the present Adminstration proves that this tendency is not ameliorated by 'higher' de-ja-Kay-shun. I think we'll find that Puritan gene's exact placement, sometime soon.
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Post #274,483
11/30/06 4:26:46 PM
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I'm sure we'll find something
to disagree about in short order :-)
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